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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 03:08:19 PM »
Latest numbers on Coronavirus.
The world is still 100 % under control of God

Babylon Bee

Happy National Day of Prayer, Ward.

If the Bee is right, then God has a lot to answer for. I am pretty sure that if there is an omnipotent deity, it is paying roughly 0% of attention to Earth.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 02:44:23 PM »
First (and last and always), we had the President insisting that the virus is no big deal.

Then Gov. Stitt was pushing going out (and his position hasn't changed, even if he deleted his tweet).

Rep. Nunes felt compelled to tell folks that their favorite pub likely had plenty of space and they should go out.

Now this:
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David Clarke, the former Milwaukee sheriff who is a prominent supporter of Trump, went a step further. He told his 916,000 Twitter followers that the restrictions being imposed were part of a government plot.

"GO INTO THE STREETS FOLKS. Visit bars, restaurants, shopping malls, CHURCHES and demand that your schools re-open," he tweeted.

"NOW! If government doesn't stop this foolishness ... STAY IN THE STREETS. END GOVERNEMNT CONTROL OVER OUR LIVES. IF NOT NOW, WHEN? THIS IS AN EXPLOITATION OF A CRISIS."

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 02:41:35 PM »
Even the GOP knows Trump is "president:"

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said she would like President Donald Trump to "step back" and appoint a public health official to be the spokesman for the federal government's response to the coronavirus outbreak.

Susan Collins is trying to keep her seat. Nothing else.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 02:01:05 PM »
With a ShitHead in the Oval Office.....we run out of toilet paper!  😭😱😘

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/us/newport-911-toilet-paper-trnd/index.html

Oregon police department is requesting that residents who have run out of toilet paper stop calling the police for help.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 01:58:58 PM »
Devin Nunes....

I think this sort of action by an elected official should be illegal.

If electeds saying stupid and irresponsible things were illegal,  we'd have to lock up half of them.  Actually, not a bad idea.  The bar suggestion was the worst - people pack into bars pretty tightly and alcohol reduces inhibitions about contact.   Restaurants with well-spaced tables aren't as bad,  though you're at the mercy of the owners policy regarding sick leave and how rigorously they enforce health codes for food prep.   If Tyler Durden is working in the kitchen...

Irresponsible and life-threatening are not the same, to my mind.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 01:14:58 PM »
Devin Nunes is playing the role of Kid Carter for the national media, or at least for the Fox News audience:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/devin-nunes-social-distancing-restaurants-bars/index.html

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"If you're healthy, you and your family, it's a great time to go out and go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in easily," Nunes said during an interview on Fox News as many cities announced new restrictions on bars and restaurants to limit gatherings.

"Let's not hurt the working people in this country ... go to your local pub," he added.

I think this sort of action by an elected official should be illegal.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 09:56:43 AM »
"President Trump downplaying the severity of the virus......."

Nope.  Simply not so, CNN

In fact on your own network Governor Andrew Cuomo defended the President's actions - as a leader not spreading fear.  CNN morning show of course still not budging on its show of political bias. They cannot put it away - even in time of national crisis.

What the fuck do you think his claim that the US has "tremendous control" over the coronavirus suggests, if not that he's downplaying the severity of the problem?!

Not to mention his excuse for his ongoing hand-shaking.

(Or as somebody mentioned last night, "Great - they have the candidates 6 feet apart. Why are the moderators sitting together?!")

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 09:52:55 AM »
Concerns arising of testing accuracy.  Patients testing negative and then having no further concern.

Exactly why the administration was hesitant to use the WHO tests.  Always best to develop your own - so any valleys can be dealt with - with first hand knowledge.

Bullshit.

Nothing precluded our developing our own while using the WHO tests in the intervening time, instead of allowing the thing to spread without any checks on it.

Yes, it was about control but not the way you mean. "Oh noes! The UN is trying to take over the US!"

Having the tests earlier would have meant our numbers went up more and faster. Trump stated that he liked the numbers lower. (Not the number of people with the virus lower, just the official count. So image conscious and sooooo short-sighted.)

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 12:06:56 AM »
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This virus is exposing two fundamental flaws in our society: children's nutrition being tied to public schools and healthcare being tied to employment.
What does that even mean?

Have you been tested?

For reduced mental capacity, that is.

Because so many families are poor, their children's nutritional needs are handled by giving them meals in their schools, Ward. I am sure you have never encountered that notion.

So, when schools are closing down for other reasons, then the kids' nutritional needs are going to need to be met in some other fashion or they will not be met at all.


Shockingly enough, the same parallel can be drawn with health insurance and employment, if less completely with the still somewhat useful, but somewhat crippled ACA.

Unemployed people mostly have no health insurance and cannot afford the COVID-19 testing. The new law will help with that, once the GOP finally deigns to pass it! But the problems still persist.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:47:37 PM »
Kid, a bit more about why the steps we are taking (a) seem needful despite the age question you quoted and (b) may be wholly inadequate:



South Korea has been testing everybody - they are currently testing 20,000 a day, vs. our not having gotten up to 10,000 total, yet! Italy has only been testing those who report symptoms.

More:
https://medium.com/@andreasbackhausab/coronavirus-why-its-so-deadly-in-italy-c4200a15a7bf

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:32:40 PM »

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:29:25 PM »
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This virus is exposing two fundamental flaws in our society: children's nutrition being tied to public schools and healthcare being tied to employment.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:28:44 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/steve-hilton-dr-fauci-coronavirus-school-closures


"The question many are asking is... 'if kids don't get it -- if most people who get it are fine, why are we closing down America to fight it?"' Hilton asked.


"You need to answer the big question many Americans are asking. Instead of closing school, colleges, sports and other large gatherings for the general population, why don't we isolate the vulnerable population?"



The answer, if they are paying the slightest attention, has been given and given.

And for you, Kid, who seems oddly enough to have missed it:

Kids can be carriers. Putting them in a room together pretty much guarantees the spread.

AND

We are isolating the vulnerable populations, too! Since the most vulnerable are folks with compromised immune systems and other issues, by closing down the sports we are making it harder to spread to them. By closing off the nursing homes from (most) visitors, we are protecting our elderly.

There are a lot of people who are vulnerable, but don't know it for a host of reasons.

And the less it spreads, the better off we - the country and the world - are.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 10:49:55 PM »
https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1239303653711904769

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TRUMP: "We're learning from watching other countries ... This is a very contagious virus, it's incredible, but it's something that we have tremendous control over. I think very important the young people, people of good health and groups of people just are not strongly affected."

That was today.

This was yesterday:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing/

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We’re all in this together.  It’s something that nobody expected.  It came out of China, and it’s one of those things that happened.  It’s nobody’s fault.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 15, 2020, 10:10:37 PM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-showed-america-wasnt-task/608023/?fbclid=IwAR0GyUiVKmpPT3b_EUF6mOUVvm5n_nNTNKzfsUl5fpzP3SMELzp-Fo134nA

Ordinarily, I might suggest somebody explain it to Ward and Kid (and Bambi) in small words. But I doubt even that would help.

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