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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 05, 2020, 07:26:20 PM »
The gerrymandered sociopaths carry the day and set themselves up for big losses in November.

Gerrymandering is not really a Senate issue (though it is one they ought to take up).
Huh?

There, there, Ward.

Go back to sleep.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 05, 2020, 06:20:35 PM »
The gerrymandered sociopaths carry the day and set themselves up for big losses in November.

Gerrymandering is not really a Senate issue (though it is one they ought to take up).

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 05, 2020, 03:33:44 PM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/romney-impeach-trump/606127/?fbclid=IwAR33-i9AXzD8foDhsZN687ljJBgzQ5x0k2R4WrPIrzLlyvvRf49HijsD_D0

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In the end, the evidence was inescapable. “The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,” Romney said. “And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one's oath—that I can imagine. It's what autocrats do.”

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 05, 2020, 03:25:29 PM »
Donald Trump's idea of a Presidential Medal of Freedom winner:

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Baseball / Re: Major League Baseball
« on: February 05, 2020, 02:12:36 PM »
Red Sox won;t be relevant again for ten years.

I'll take that bet.

Define relevant, though, because I can imagine your discounting playoff appearances as irrelevant unless they make it to the Series or at least the ALCS.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 05, 2020, 02:08:54 PM »
Saw.a clip of Susan Collins from the morning, talking about how she believes being impeached has taught Trump a lesson. Which indeed it has, though not a positive one. Collins, though, remains concerned and if Trump repeats this behavior she will consider expressing that concern in a strongly worded letter but in the end choose not to.

Bingo!

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Previous Administration / Re: Campaign Trail
« on: February 05, 2020, 02:07:03 PM »
Biden is closer to Klobuchar and 5th place than he is to Warren in 3rd.

But Warren is closer to Klobuchar than she is to Sanders.

Still, at least thus far, only three people look to get any national delegates out of this. And for all that Buttigieg is still behind in raw vote. (Sounds familiar, somehow...) And in that regard, Warren is substantially closer to 1st and 2nd in votes than Biden is to her, let alone Klobuchar.

But it's still only 71+% of the vote.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 11:14:02 PM »
Not after the impeachment.


Pelosi favored "HE'S IMPEACHED FOR LIFE!" over a censure that could have stuck

You?

I prefer censure, but the point has been made that to even bring such a motion to the floor, one needs Mitch McConnell's permission (or a GOP senatorial override, which was not going to happen). No Mitch agreement, no censure motion.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 10:52:42 PM »
Republicans would have gone for the censure.

Not after the impeachment.

And likely not at all, but they say they would have now because talk is cheap.

And because it gives jerks like you talking points, you think.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 10:26:17 PM »
Fucking Dems want a censure now?

Evidently not.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer both made clear Tuesday that censuring President Donald Trump, as some prominent Democrats have suggested, is not on the table.

"We have impeached the President," Pelosi, a California Democrat, said to a group of reporters in advance of the President's State of the Union address. "Our house has spoken."

As she started to make the case that Republican senators -- led by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky -- wouldn't go for the option anyway, Schumer finished the thought.

"Mitch McConnell -- we cannot bring it up in the Senate trial," the New York Democrat said. "He has the ability to bring it up afterwards. He won't. But for most of us, and just about all of us, he should be convicted and we don't want a halfway measure."

Schumer continued, "I think the reason McConnell doesn't want to bring it on the floor is our Republican colleagues -- so many of them -- are so afraid of even saying he was wrong that they don't want to have a vote on it."

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 06:57:54 PM »
Pete in the lead,  with 62% precinct reporting.

As David Brooks said,  "Buttigieg is an old person's idea of a young candidate. "

Except that's not what WaPo has!


JOSH

DELEGATE COUNT,  NOT RAW VOTE,  is how Iowa declares winners.   Like the US electoral system,  those 2 metrics don't always line up.

In this case, it turns out, it's just that the WaPo screwed up.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 06:41:10 PM »
“Rob Portman doesn't support conviction on impeachment, though he acknowledges Trump did what he's accused of. But he also doesn't support censure, because it's "a remedy with no consequence." So, basically, Rob Portman supports allowing Trump to do whatever he wants with no consequence.“

What Portman actually said.

(Portman) repeated that Trump’s actions “were wrong and inappropriate” but aren’t a crime and don’t meet the Constitution’s high bar for an impeachment conviction, when senators will vote on Wednesday afternoon. Portman also said he doesn’t favor a censure of the president as suggested by some senators because “it’s a remedy that has no impact.”
In the end, “The ultimate check and balance of our system is voters,” he said.


Yes, Larry summarized misquoted it well.


FIFY.


I didn’t misquote him, I just interpreted his bullshit.
You misquoted him.

Nothing goes over Ward's head.

His reaction time is too fast.

Ward, you are probably one of only two people here who thought that was a quote. The rest of us recognized a paraphrase.

And you have not yet admitted you were wrong when you accused me of misrepresenting the Senator a couple days ago, so you have zero cred, as usual.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: February 04, 2020, 06:39:08 PM »

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