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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

Are you an Erdogan fan? Is that why you dislike Enes so much?

No.  I saw a poster on a telephone pole saying i could make as much as $1000 a week from my own home.

Part of the gig is bashing Enes. 

[kiiidcarter8]

"KP and Mitch take all the minutes at the 5"

I still like Porzingis as a 4.

Will be interesting to see what Fiz thinks.

Theoretically....if we get a real strong point, THJ could be out of the picture (lunch pail 5 and Knox at the 3)

[Kam]

O-boards are valuable, rebounds are good, scoring at a 55% clip is good.  Kant could post up more especially v. 2nd unit C's. 

Yeah, it'd be better if Kant sucked it up and didn't complain.  Especially since almost every Knick but Tim has been in and out of the starting lineup, and most get a 2nd chance and have made the best of it. 

Kant is a rather odd minor element to fixate on ....

I don't think anyone is giving Kanter more than the MLE. The catch is he absolutely cannot be relied upon during the playoffs because opponents will PNR him to death. "Can't Play Kanter".  If so, then the $6m Bo says is sensible. It might be less.

For the Knicks, it's a pretty simple decision. KP and Mitch should take all 48 minutes at the 5 spot in competitive games. Maybe there's five minutes at most left over some games for when the Knicks go with a twin towers lineup (which is what KP at the 4 represents in today's NBA - a gimmick, to be used infrequently). And if the Knicks keep Vonleh - which I hope they do - then there really isn't a single minute left for Kanter barring injury. And if the Knicks draft Zion...well, you get the picture.

You left out Luke "Corner 3" Kornet

He changes our offense completely.  You don't miss Kanter's yeomen gruntwork when Kornet is raining them in from distance.

Even when he isn't shooting he stretches the floor and opens the lane.

[Kam]

THJ could be out of the picture (lunch pail 5 and Knox at the 3)

THJ's slump has coincided with KK's emergence.

Apropos of nothing.   Just interesting.

Agree with BO that Knicks front office should WANT KP to play.

KP may have other ideas.

If he doesn't come back i would be of a mind that he is out the door as soon as he can leave.

[carlos123]

Are you an Erdogan fan? Is that why you dislike Enes so much?

No.  I saw a poster on a telephone pole saying i could make as much as $1000 a week from my own home.

Part of the gig is bashing Enes.

Recep must be disappointed in the job you’re doing, poor baby.

[Kam]

DAAAAAAAAMN...   HE'S A BAD MAN

OKC really kept the worst guy... Harden KD and Russ would have prevented the DUB Dynasty

[Kam]

Are you an Erdogan fan? Is that why you dislike Enes so much?

No.  I saw a poster on a telephone pole saying i could make as much as $1000 a week from my own home.

Part of the gig is bashing Enes.

Recep must be disappointed in the job you’re doing, poor baby.

He will be somewhere else next year and you'll have no choice but to come to my side.
Especially when he opens his mouth to trash the Knicks.

[Kam]

Enes wouldn't have provided any resistance against the high flying Gobert.  None.

Kanter started the last time we played Utah.
We beat them.
Kanter had the game high +/- at +19.

Dude.... for all your cryin about GObert last game Kanter was a -30 and Kornet was a -3
AND  the game you're saying we won last ... Gobert didn't play.... LMAO

How'm i doing now Carlos.

[Kam]

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400974957

[Kam]

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975418

Gobert with 23 and 14 on Kanter.

[bodiddley]

Harden with the OT dagger.
Man, KD was a disaster late 4Q.
For some reason, GS went to Durant every time and he was missing form outside, so he started to drive.  Was stripped once, then blocked on a dunk attempt.  Finally with 1:00 they got the ball to Stpeh who missed a straight on 3, maybe because he hadn't touched the ball in the last 3 mins of the KD Show.

Then Durant didn't notice that HOU threw a full court pass to Capela, right past clueless Durant.  To make matters worse, Durant fouled Capela on the layup.  It was a 6 point game right at the 1 min mark.  Allow the layup and it's a 4-point/2 possession game, and GS has the ball.  The dual defensive errors by Durant made it a 3-pt/1 possession affair.

Durant continued spotty play in OT.
Refs weren't much better with Durant taking 3 steps out of bounds and then "saving" a ball rolling off the court.  I mean, he didn't even get near being in the court, tossed the ball to Steph who made a foul line J.  Harden was pretty incredulous that the refs didn't notice that Durant was way off the court.

[bodiddley]

No such stat as defensive +/-

Really?

Kanter scored 17 points and grabbed 12 rebounds in just 20 minutes of work Tuesday night. He is averaging 14.4 points and 10.6 rebounds per game, but he ranks 60th in defensive real plus-minus amid the 61 qualified centers.

Yeah, my mistake,
Kanter's 61 out of 61 now.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/DRPM/position/9

[bodiddley]

More defensive real plus-minus:

Muddy Mud: -1.34 = 75th of 80 PG's
Trey Burke:  -1.63 = 80 of 80
Franc Ntilikina: -2.26 = 81st

Hardaway Jr: -2.52  = 93 of 100 SG's
Allonzo Trier: -2.78  = 95 of 99

Kevin Knox:   -3.87 = 85 of 85 SF's

Noah Vonleh: +2.33 = 8 of 93 PF's
Luke Kornet:  +0.97 = 36 of 93

Enes Kanter:   -1.80  = 61 of 61 C's
Mitch Robson: +1.18 = 38 of 61

Lance strong & Courtly solid for DRPM, but they've played little.
Mario somehow not too bad.  Dotson poor.

** For some reason, Franc & Tim are missing from the position lists.
I found them on the full list of NBA players.  So I slotted them in where they would fit, but didn't alter the other rankings.
Which is why there are 99 SG's for Trier, but 100 for Tim.
Adding Tim would really bump Trier to 96 of 100, but I just stuck with the available list.

BTW:
T'Angelo Russell: -1.25  72 of 80 PG's
Kemba Walker:    -1.26  73 of 80

[bodiddley]

This is interesting.
A Center ranking from 2 seasons ago.
Just after the season finished.
Kant on OKC; returning home Dwight on ATL, etc.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2702639-nba-position-power-rankings-end-of-regular-season-edition-centers

They were disappointed with some Capela regression.  Had him 27th. 
He was fairly young at 22 years old.
GS ZaZa was 25th.  Monroe 23.
Kanter was 29th:

Enes Kanter remains an offensive rebounding demon who displays remarkable touch around the basket, and he's showcased solid chemistry with Russell Westbrook when diving to the hoop. But his limited role should leave him with enough energy to contribute defensively, and he's not. According to ESPN.com's defensive real plus/minus (DRPM), only five centers have fared worse on the less glamorous end. 

Steven Adams 23rd (he was young)
Noel 22nd!
Dwight 11th!
Cousin Boogie 4th

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2702639-nba-position-power-rankings-end-of-regular-season-edition-centers

[luee]

Knicks are tanking by not playing defense? Probably the simplest way to do it. Just coach team D. down. Biggest disappointment is Frank. He was drafted for defense mainly.  Clean up the rough edges next year.