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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

http://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/politics/donald-trump-russian-interference-election-politics/index.html

Trump's team altered the report on Russian election interference for the sake of politics.

He, too, refused to accept the evidence.

[Espnthree]

The preferred method of suicide for women is pills, they overdose on pills.

Men use guns, but women prefer overdosing on pills.

Salute,

Tony V.

Unless guns are readily available in the house, Tony.

THAT's the underlying issue that Ward is trying to bury and which you are missing.

Josh conflates the causes of suicide with the means.
He is totally at sea.

Ward refuses to accept evidence.

Not news.

You have no evidence.
If you did you would tell us how many women lived  in a house with a gun and did not commit suicide.

[Holly Martins]

Wow.  Still can't distinguish between a primary cause and a facilitating factor.  Or is just desperate to score a point.

Think of insurance and what they call "but-for causation."

But for the manhole cover left off, the man dodging the reckless skateboarder would not have fallen into the hole. 

But for the presence of a gun, the depressed person would not have killed themself.

[Espnthree]

But for the presence of a gun, the depressed person would not have killed themself.

Based on absolutely no factual evidence.
Your kind of argument.

[Hamilton Samuels]

The activist SCOTUS is busy removing Americans' rights. The Democratic Party would like to thank Gorsuch and Kavanaugh for lying to Congress, and giving the party a key issue to hammer home during the election this year. 

 

[Hamilton Samuels]

Evidence to support the reduction of available guns decreases the rate of suicide: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253339115_Change_in_Suicide_Rates_in_Switzerland_Before_and_After_Firearm_Restriction_Resulting_From_the_2003_Army_XXI_Reform

Gun loving Swiss did it, we could, too.

But we don't give a shit about people. Only the p

[Holly Martins]

Josh provided evidence, too.  Dickward keeps lying with his "no evidence" bullshit.

Meanwhile, Trumpist dickwad JD Vance wins Ohio primary, making Tim Ryan's job much easier taking the Portman Senate seat.

[bambu.]

"It's totally legal, therefore it's not unethical".

[josh]

"It's totally legal, therefore it's not unethical".

Said nobody on this message board.

Go fight your stupid strawman arguments elsewhere.

[Espnthree]

Josh provided evidence, too.

Josh provided NO evidence.

Meanwhile, Trumpist dickwad JD Vance wins Ohio primary, making Tim Ryan's job much easier taking the Portman Senate seat.

No dog in that hunt but you might want to pay attention to the vote totals.

[josh]

Josh provided evidence, too.

Josh provided NO evidence.

Lie, deny, and obfuscate.

[josh]

In addition to ignoring suicide and gun ownership evidence, Ward also wants to pretend that England, Australia, and Switzerland don't exist or cannot possibly be relevant to America.

This includes ignoring what they learned in England about eliminating ready access to big bottles of pills with regard to suicide.

Easy access to suicide methods increases usage of those methods.

Restricting ready access to suicide methods reduces suicide attempts.

It's simple.

It's clear.

And it is proven to rational people.

[Espnthree]

In addition to ignoring suicide and gun ownership evidence, Ward also wants to pretend that England, Australia, and Switzerland don't exist or cannot possibly be relevant to America.

This includes ignoring what they learned in England about eliminating ready access to big bottles of pills with regard to suicide.

Easy access to suicide methods increases usage of those methods.

If someone wants to commit suicide.

Restricting ready access to suicide methods reduces suicide attempts.

  No study ever made such a finding.

It's simple.

It's clear.

And it is proven to rational people.

Except for the fact it is not proven.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/politics/donald-trump-russian-interference-election-politics/index.html

Trump's team altered the report on Russian election interference for the sake of politics.

He, too, refused to accept the evidence.

And Tucker Coughlin just accused trump of stealing the 2016 election from Hillary.

According to Faux, it is time to eject the fake trump justices. After a good dunking in the Potomac, all three should be free to walk home and find real jobs.

The last part should not be a problem in this strong Biden job market. Fulfillment center work might be too far above them considering their resumes.

[facilitatorn]

Red is not worried about suicide.

No matter how he aims, the lump of fat between his ears is nigh impenetrable.