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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[FlyingVProd]

Go ahead and succeed!

There is a new line of bullshit that people are using on the web, they are saying that because their lives sucked, that other people need to have bad lives too. And they are using this type of thinking to bash immigrants, and to bash government programs aimed at helping people, etc. It is all bullshit.

I am sorry if you had a bad life, but do not be jealous of people who have good lives, and do not bash people who are trying to rise to a better life.

I have seen people get very mean and hateful if they think that an immigrant gets any form of aid. And of course we are dealing with people who justify putting children in cages.

It is all bullshit.

If someone has a good life, then we should be happy for them. We should be happy to see good things happening for other people.

I hope that immigrants come here and become millionaires. And many immigrants are succeeding, and I am happy for them.

Also, many immigrants are helping the homeless here, etc. And many of our doctors are immigrants.

Salute,

Tony V.

[kiidcarter8]

Wait.  They get AID for being immigrants?

[josh]

Always a paragon of sanctimony that "Mr. Graham."

Well, whatever you feel about him - that is the definitive statement on the current matter of impeachment

No, it's a lie, Kid.

You might try reading the Constitution - what it says about the House and Senate and what it says about impeachment.

Then get somebody intelligent and very very patient to explain it to you in small words, with repetition.

[josh]

It's pretty clear that the lawyer Graham hasn't read the Constitutional provisions about impeachment.

Oh, I am sure he has read it and understands it, as Kid says.

He's just lying for Trump and the base.

[josh]

https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1186627394708365315?s=21

THE GREAT ONE!

He doesn't even look like Jackie Gleason, let alone sound like him. Helluva writer, but full of shit. Amazingly so - unless what you mean by "hasn't been a hint of scandal" is "they have been all over the front page of the papers!"

[josh]

Since Kid won't click to see the link's info.

Kid, Graham knows this. The "drama queens" among the GOP House members know this. Today was exactly as you described it, for a change - drama for the sake of drama, with bogus claims and posturing.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) added in a letter last week to members:

“In each session, I have made an opening statement, and offered the same opportunity to a Member designated by the minority. Questions have been primarily asked by committee counsels for both the majority and the minority, but also by Members of both parties. And the majority and minority have been provided equal staff representation and time to question witnesses, who have stayed until the majority and the minority have asked all of their questions – often late into the evening. It is necessary to point this out, because the President and his allies have made the false claim that GOP members and staff have been precluded from attending or asking questions — nothing could be further from the truth.

“The reasons for conducting interviews in private are sound and based on the best interests of a thorough and fair investigation. Unlike in past impeachment proceedings in which Congress had the benefit of an investigation conducted in secret by an independent prosecutor, we must conduct the initial investigation ourselves. This is the case, because the Department of Justice under Bill Barr expressly declined to investigate this matter, after a criminal referral had been made.

“The special counsels in the Nixon and Clinton impeachments conducted their investigations in private and we must initially do the same. It is of paramount importance to ensure that witnesses cannot coordinate their testimony with one another to match their description of events, or potentially conceal the truth.”

What’s more, the Washington Post reported last week that the lawmakers participating in the impeachment inquiry have followed the rules closely, with both sides participating equally with every witness.

Again, House Republicans, including those involved in today’s stunt, know this. They’re pretending not to, claiming to have no idea why “Democrats are trying to impeach Trump in secret,” but no one is dumb enough to genuinely believe this.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/us/broward-county-sheriff-scott-israel-reinstatement/index.html

[josh]

This is all, Kid.

The House and Senate shall make their own rules. That means that the House is not bound to conduct their hearings based on what either the Senate, the President, or the minority party would like them to do.

And... the rules for how one conducts an inquiry, whether for impeachment or anything else is totally up to the House. TOTALLY. They don't need to vote for an impeachment inquiry. They don't need to do any damned specific thing.

But... as it is, you are being lied to, which has already been explained.

Section. 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

...

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
...
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

and

Section. 5.
Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

and

...
Section. 2.
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
...
Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Article III.
...
Section. 2.
...
The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

[josh]

But don't take my word for it. This is the Congressional Research Service's explanation of:
An Overview of the Impeachment Process

https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/98-806.pdf

Summary

The Constitution sets forth the general principles which control the procedural
aspects of impeachment, vesting the power to impeach in the House of Representatives,
while imbuing the Senate with the power to try impeachments. Both the Senate and the
House have designed procedures to implement these general principles in dealing with
a wide range of impeachment issues. This short report provides a brief overview of the
impeachment process, reflecting the roles of both the House and the Senate during the
course of an impeachment inquiry and trial.

The House of Representatives: “Sole Impeachment Power”
A. Initiation.
...
B. Investigation.

In all prior impeachment proceedings, the House has examined the charges prior to
entertaining any vote.13 Usually an initial investigation is conducted by the Judiciary
Committee, to which investigating and reporting duties are delegated by resolution after
charges have been presented. However, it is possible that this investigation would be
carried out by a select or special committee.14

The focus of the impeachment inquiry is to determine whether the person involved
has engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. If the House
Committee on the Judiciary, by majority vote, determines that grounds for impeachment
exist, a resolution impeaching the individual in question and setting forth specific
allegations of misconduct, in one or more articles of impeachment, will be reported to the
full House.

[REDSTATEWARD]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

[bankshot1]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

Or they could take depositions, investigate and then have hearings of the House Judiciary Comm. to air the charges and evidence, and to vote whether articles of impeachment are warranted.

It took Republicans 4+ years of investigating Whitewater to impeach Clinton on a blowjob.

One would think you would be amenable to the honest testimony of a small army of governmennt insiders privy to the insidious corruption and traitorous behavior of Trump. Insiders who were scared of the long-term damage he is doing to the interests of this country only to further his own narrow self-interests. 

Or maybe you don't give a shit.

[facilitatorn]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

They are still in the pulling and sorting stage. The crooks who currently hold most of the evidence are doing everything in their power to violate their oaths and keep the damning evidence under wraps. Depending on how obstructive republicans want to be, the investigation should move along to the public hearing and debate stage with a recall of all the essential witnesses for public testimony starting sometime in December or January, after republicans have finished fucking up next year’s budget assuming they can get their thumbs out of their asses long enough to get even that done.

Sad crooked party full of sad pasty crooks.

[josh]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

They aren't done investigation, nimrod.

The GOP seems to need more to be convinced, so there will be more.

Fortunately (and unfortunately), it seems that Trump has broken a lot of laws.

[REDSTATEWARD]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

They aren't done investigation, nimrod.

Oh.

[Hairy Lime]

If the evidence against Trump is so damning, then why not make it all public now ?

Didn't read Schiff's letter? Here is the relevant.part:

"The reasons for conducting interviews in private are sound and based on the best interests of a thorough and fair investigation. Unlike in past impeachment proceedings in which Congress had the benefit of an investigation conducted in secret by an independent prosecutor, we must conduct the initial investigation ourselves. This is the case, because the Department of Justice under Bill Barr expressly declined to investigate this matter, after a criminal referral had been made.

“The special counsels in the Nixon and Clinton impeachments conducted their investigations in private and we must initially do the same. It is of paramount importance to ensure that witnesses cannot coordinate their testimony with one another to match their description of events, or potentially conceal the truth.”