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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

"I want our country to be calm and strong and fight and win"


LEADER.

[REDSTATEWARD]

So, Ward - as our resident originalist and defended of all things Constitutional, what do you think of the claims, in NH and now in TX, that "stay-at-home" orders are unconstitutional?!

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-Supreme-Court-Harris-County-stay-at-home-15166758.php?utm_campaign=CMS+Sharing+Tools+%28Premium%29&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR2gnRXo3C0i-Xs-gdj-VvjEO_yXTDhsoCUpwhLLO9Gt7ziPgkWajq7RD1Q

The Federal Government is restricted from national quarantines. The states not so much thanks to the 10th amendment and the Commerce Clause. on that basis I would says states have Constitutional authority.  At the state level public health safety seems to take precedence. Ohio postponed the democrat primary election citing the threat to health by the corona virus, basically ignoring a judge’s ruling to the contrary. Further the state’s rescheduled election will prohibit in person voting. And Ohio was among the first states to close non essential businesses, schools, etc.
I don’t know if Texas accords the state the same power in overseeing public health.

Every time Red mentions the Commerce Clause, I think of Indigo Montoya. You keep using that phrase. I dont think it means what you think it means.

Well it certainly doesn't mean what he thinks it does in that post.

It most certainly does. Federal Law under the Commerce Clause  does not provide for quarantines of individuals who remain within a single state.

[Yankguy1]

Oh. Well you said that Commerce Clause gives states that authority. You need to write better.

[REDSTATEWARD]

So, Ward - as our resident originalist and defended of all things Constitutional, what do you think of the claims, in NH and now in TX, that "stay-at-home" orders are unconstitutional?!

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-Supreme-Court-Harris-County-stay-at-home-15166758.php?utm_campaign=CMS+Sharing+Tools+%28Premium%29&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR2gnRXo3C0i-Xs-gdj-VvjEO_yXTDhsoCUpwhLLO9Gt7ziPgkWajq7RD1Q

The Federal Government is restricted from national quarantines. The states not so much thanks to the 10th amendment and the Commerce Clause. on that basis I would says states have Constitutional authority.  At the state level public health safety seems to take precedence. Ohio postponed the democrat primary election citing the threat to health by the corona virus, basically ignoring a judge’s ruling to the contrary. Further the state’s rescheduled election will prohibit in person voting. And Ohio was among the first states to close non essential businesses, schools, etc.
I don’t know if Texas accords the state the same power in overseeing public health.

Every time Red mentions the Commerce Clause, I think of Indigo Montoya. You keep using that phrase. I dont think it means what you think it means.

For what it is worth, the 10th Amendment would not give the States the right to quarantine either.

Of course it does.

Neither it nor the Commerce Clause grant the states any rights they did not already have.

LOL

[kiidcarter8]

In less than positive news:

https://www.livescience.com/cat-infected-covid-19-from-owner.html?fbclid=IwAR2sN9OVWEtTUNpOXgFSxSWXgfPUXkv05KhjcMU9PMLu3kT67ZU3wmqHfro

This is a solid news source and was posted by a solid academic who studies epidemics. I reluctantly think it is true.

You think WHAT is true?

Thanks for the link,  I like the site.

That the cat caught the virus from its owner.

Uh...

ok.

Is there anything more alarming to this?

Pets caught SARS as well.

Keep us posted when Felix gets the blood test. 

[kiidcarter8]

"Our testing is BETTER than any country in the world"

-  Trump


Thoughts?

[REDSTATEWARD]

Oh. Well you said that Commerce Clause gives states that authority. You need to write better.

The Federal Government is restricted from national quarantines. The states not so much thanks to the 10th amendment and the Commerce Clause.

I stand by what I wrote.

[Yankguy1]

Stand away.

[kiidcarter8]

Credit this president for continuing to call on Ms Alcindor and Mr Acosta at these briefings.

Today wasn't pretty - and you can argue whether or not it was necessary - they got slapped pretty good.   We can only hope the questions improve.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Stand away.

Social distancing.

[Yankguy1]

"Our testing is BETTER than any country in the world"

-  Trump


Thoughts?

That he lied his way through his first three years of being President. Why should I accept anything he says?

[Hairy Lime]

So, Ward - as our resident originalist and defended of all things Constitutional, what do you think of the claims, in NH and now in TX, that "stay-at-home" orders are unconstitutional?!

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-Supreme-Court-Harris-County-stay-at-home-15166758.php?utm_campaign=CMS+Sharing+Tools+%28Premium%29&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR2gnRXo3C0i-Xs-gdj-VvjEO_yXTDhsoCUpwhLLO9Gt7ziPgkWajq7RD1Q

The Federal Government is restricted from national quarantines. The states not so much thanks to the 10th amendment and the Commerce Clause. on that basis I would says states have Constitutional authority.  At the state level public health safety seems to take precedence. Ohio postponed the democrat primary election citing the threat to health by the corona virus, basically ignoring a judge’s ruling to the contrary. Further the state’s rescheduled election will prohibit in person voting. And Ohio was among the first states to close non essential businesses, schools, etc.
I don’t know if Texas accords the state the same power in overseeing public health.

Every time Red mentions the Commerce Clause, I think of Indigo Montoya. You keep using that phrase. I dont think it means what you think it means.

For what it is worth, the 10th Amendment would not give the States the right to quarantine either.

Of course it does.

Neither it nor the Commerce Clause grant the states any rights they did not already have.

LOL

Laugh away. It is your away of admitting I am right.

[kiidcarter8]

WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick


"There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO executive director of health emergencies program, said during a media briefing in Geneva on Monday.


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"In the community, we do not recommend the use of wearing masks unless you yourself are sick and as a measure to prevent onward spread from you if you are ill," Van Kerkhove said. "The masks that we recommend are for people who are at home and who are sick and for those individuals who are caring for those people who are home that are sick."

[Hairy Lime]

"I want our country to be calm and strong and fight and win"


DEAR LEADER.

fify. Trump could stand outside in a blizzard waving his penis around while shouting "Willy Banjo" and you would call it leadership.

[facilitatorn]

Trump is waiting for Biden to tell him what to do.