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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[barton]

Really... I am just trying to help.

Anxiety can be a contributory killer as well.

With help like yours, nobody needs the coronavirus, Kid.

You are condescending, racist, and arrogant.

Mostly agree,  though I will note that Larry's use of the phrase "most of you white men"  could be seen as provocative.   It also presumes something about the reader based on race.    Avenue Q,  and all that....

[barton]

2) cows are vegetarians

Only because they have yet to taste that sweet, sweet manflesh.

1.  Your most homoerotic post to date. J/K

2.  They say humans taste like pork.   In New Guinea,  human meat used to be called "long pork. " 

[josh]

Everyone has to have medical help available or the spread will continue.


Have you heard that patients were turned away from testing/treatment because they lacked insurance?

Yes.

[kiidcarter8]

The imperfect governor:


I live on Long Island and many doctors are telling me that they want to prescribe this medication to their patients who test positive for COVID-19 – the disease caused by the coronavirus – but do NOT need the patient to come to a hospital. However, Cuomo’s executive order forbids pharmacies from filling the prescriptions.

The governor is creating a much bigger crisis in his state’s hospital system by denying New Yorkers THE CHOICE (in consultation with their doctors) to take this potentially life-saving medication.





https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sean-hannity-gov-cuomo-stop-denying-new-yorkers-hydroxychloroquine

[LarryBnDC]

Really... I am just trying to help.

Anxiety can be a contributory killer as well.

With help like yours, nobody needs the coronavirus, Kid.

You are condescending, racist, and arrogant.

Mostly agree,  though I will note that Larry's use of the phrase "most of you white men"  could be seen as provocative.   It also presumes something about the reader based on race.    Avenue Q,  and all that....

Yeah, everybody’s a little bit racist but judg8ng by the national voting patterns of white men, well yeah.

“Most white men...”

The Republican Party is explicitly racist (fight me) and white make voters haven’t voted for a Democrat since 52% voted for Jimmy Carter. What’s so provocative about a fact?

Welcome to my world where I am presumed to be something based on my race all the time.

For instance, ordering at a drive through window and being the subject of a wager:
Cashier to manager, “See? I told you he was black!”

[LarryBnDC]

The imperfect governor:


I live on Long Island and many doctors are telling me that they want to prescribe this medication to their patients who test positive for COVID-19 – the disease caused by the coronavirus – but do NOT need the patient to come to a hospital. However, Cuomo’s executive order forbids pharmacies from filling the prescriptions.

The governor is creating a much bigger crisis in his state’s hospital system by denying New Yorkers THE CHOICE (in consultation with their doctors) to take this potentially life-saving medication.





https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sean-hannity-gov-cuomo-stop-denying-new-yorkers-hydroxychloroquine

FOx kicked Trish Regan off the island for a reason... Sean is gonna need a damn good lawyer because when the shift comes down on Fox, and it will, they’re gonna say his opinions were his own... we just paid him big money and gave him a platform to spout his bullshit to stupid rubes...



"Yet by commission as well as omission—direct, uncontested misinformation as well as failure to report the true dimensions of the crisis—Fox News has been derelict in its duty to provide clear and accurate information about COVID-19."

https://www.newsweek.com/journalism-professors-fox-news-end-coronavirus-misinformation-open-letter-1495688?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

[barton]

The imperfect governor:


I live on Long Island and many doctors are telling me that they want to prescribe this medication to their patients who test positive for COVID-19 – the disease caused by the coronavirus – but do NOT need the patient to come to a hospital. However, Cuomo’s executive order forbids pharmacies from filling the prescriptions.

The governor is creating a much bigger crisis in his state’s hospital system by denying New Yorkers THE CHOICE (in consultation with their doctors) to take this potentially life-saving medication.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-cure-fact-check-hydroxychloroquine-trump

   What does the evidence show?

The French study followed work by Chinese researchers which suggested that hydroxychloroquine can slow infections from Sars-CoV-2, the virus behind Covid-19, by blocking it from entering cells in the body. But more recent, albeit small-scale, research from China has shown that patients who were treated with the drugs fought off coronavirus no more quickly than those who didn’t get it. Indeed, one patient given hydroxychloroquine severely worsened in condition while four patients on the medicine developed signs of liver damage and experienced diarrhea.

Regardless of these findings, any drug being used for a certain purpose before full clinical trials are completed is, by definition, untested and unproven. It’s too early to say if hydroxychloroquine can have a major benefit or not.

AGAIN:  THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIALS WITH PLACEBO CONTROLLED PROTOCOL IN A DOUBLE-BLIND SETUP,  YOU INCREDIBLE FUCKING MORON.   

And,  finally,  we know that the drug IS LIFESAVING FOR SOME PEOPLE WITH SEVERE LUPUS some of whom are now unable to obtain it thanks to irresponsible fucking morons like you.   

[kiidcarter8]

That drive in thing is understandably upsetting to you, Larry - but you dont have to bring that here.  Every Trump voter - and every Escape from Elba member disagreeing politically with you isnt that drive thru idiot - and isnt racist.

[kiidcarter8]

AGAIN:  THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIALS WITH PLACEBO CONTROLLED PROTOCOL IN A DOUBLE-BLIND SETUP,  YOU INCREDIBLE FUCKING MORON.   


a)  please - stop screaming

b)  those that like to say "Trump is killing x amount of Americans" need to also realize people may be getting seriously ill/ even die by not getting access to medication that could help.

In this case Hannity is assuming (may or may not be right) that Cuomo is worried about running out of the drug, thus keeping it (hoarding) from being used now - for what he may believe is unnecessary means.  And his point continues that hospitals may become more overloaded by patients showing up when their doctor could simply be allowed to fill the prescription and have them stay home.

It's at least debatable.  There is even talk of using the drug so that medical personnel are better shielded from the virus.  Again - we know it is safer to medicate after the drug goes through proper trial - but these are serious times - calling for more than just book smarts.

[bodiddley]

b)  those that like to say "Trump is killing x amount of Americans" need to also realize people may be getting seriously ill/ even die by not getting access to medication that could help.

I think someone like Cuomo should do the best he can in this health crisis.  And then after it passes, he should resign or not run for re-election when his term ends.  Because he failed NYers and allowed the virus to spread unchecked with limited measures.  No matter how good he does at handling the emergency, he also allowed it which was a huge failure, and so he is responsible for deaths and illness and the outbreak.

[josh]

That drive in thing is understandably upsetting to you, Larry - but you dont have to bring that here.  Every Trump voter - and every Escape from Elba member disagreeing politically with you isnt that drive thru idiot - and isnt racist.

Not every prior Trump voter.

Every future Trump voter is actively supporting a known racist.

And yes, every Escape from Elba member disagreeing politically with Larry is a racist, but not because they disagree with him politically.

"you don't have to bring that here"

Hey, Larry, stop letting your experiences outside of here influence your perception of how the racists here treat you! Ya'hear?!

[josh]

AGAIN:  THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIALS WITH PLACEBO CONTROLLED PROTOCOL IN A DOUBLE-BLIND SETUP,  YOU INCREDIBLE FUCKING MORON.   


a)  please - stop screaming

b)  those that like to say "Trump is killing x amount of Americans" need to also realize people may be getting seriously ill/ even die by not getting access to medication that could help.

Except that same medication can also hurt and the potential to hurt is proven, while the potential to help is still theoretical.

And Trump's killing started earlier, has run longer, and we don't have enough of your ostensible miracle drug to help all the people who would need it, as has already been pointed out to you.

Having more ventilators and more masks and more gowns and more fucking BEDS would help more people than that drug would. Also, I already posted trial of a different medication whose Phase 1 trial was successful and has moved on to Phase 2. Why are you (and The Trump) not crowing about that one, huh?

Who is making money from the hydroxychloroquine, I wonder? Because it is being pushed all out of proportion to its successes, especially in comparison.

[kidcarter8]

And,  finally,  we know that the drug IS LIFESAVING FOR SOME PEOPLE WITH SEVERE LUPUS some of whom are now unable to obtain it thanks to irresponsible fucking morons like you.

A very irresponsible post.

[josh]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/decision-2020/trump-campaign-calls-sessions-delusional-in-letter/2101974/

Too funny for words! I don't think this 'cease and desist' letter is going to do anything to either stop Sessions' campaign from using Trump's name or to harm the Sessions campaign in general.

President Donald Trump’s campaign has sent a letter to Jeff Sessions, his former attorney general now running for a U.S. Senate seat, objecting to Sessions' portrayal of himself as a Trump supporter in a campaign mailer.

The March 31 letter sent by Michael S. Glassner, chief operating officer of Donald J. Trump for President, accused Sessions of attempting to “misleadingly promote your connections to and ‘support’ of Trump,” in the campaign mailer that mentioned Trump’s name 22 times.

“The letter even makes the delusional assertion that you are President ‘Trump’s #1 Supporter,’" Glassner wrote.

[josh]

And,  finally,  we know that the drug IS LIFESAVING FOR SOME PEOPLE WITH SEVERE LUPUS some of whom are now unable to obtain it thanks to irresponsible fucking morons like you.

A very irresponsible post.

How so?

Are you suggesting that the promotion of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 has not contributed to its being hoarded by people, causing a shortage of the drug?!

On what basis are you suggesting that?

And if that is not your assertion, then what makes his post irresponsible?