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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

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DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/04/11/professor-didier-raoult-releases-the-results-of-a-new-hydroxychloroquine-treatment-study-on-1061-patients/

That's the same old bullshit ib]abstract[/b] that we already had, Kid, which I posted after you talked about it.

He still has not released the paper for which that is the abstract.

It's a bullshit abstract for reasons already innumerated previously. The "methods" section is not about methods. The claim is that it worked on "older" patients, but the mean age was in the 40s. Lots more.

Plus no control.

Your assumption that kiid appreciates the difference may not be justified.

Hope, not assumption.

And not much hope, either.

[kiidcarter8]

Many have not been cautious.


Can you share some anecdotes?

[josh]

He thinks we do not know. He thinks we have NO evidence of what cured them.


Of course we know.

"we" = you and the folks claiming they were cured.

But no, you don't know. You have faith.

[josh]

Many have not been cautious.


Can you share some anecdotes?

To what end?

You didn't believe them the last time because they contradicted your faith.

[kiidcarter8]

Nobody expects a drug to work for everybody, asshole.


Right

But you discount that it works for some.

For some aspirin does nothing.  For some it is a lifesaver.

Take your fucking brain out of dry dock.

[kiidcarter8]

Many have not been cautious.


Can you share some anecdotes?

To what end?

You didn't believe them the last time because they contradicted your faith.

One

I will accept one.

We will wait.

[barton]

Boz,  that's also one of my favorite facts.  Though there is considerable skepticism that Aubrey's account is correct.  I also like that Bacon's father was the Keeper of the Great Seal,  which I tend to visualize as another form of animal preservation....

Aubrey, BTW,  held that Bacon was a pederast,  though in the Renaissance meaning of the word which did not necessarily imply sexuality directed towards children,  but rather homosexuality.   

[kiidcarter8]

Drug/testing companies at press briefing

Shall I list them so you can throw your stones?

[REDSTATEWARD]

"list of common sense beliefs" was meant ironically, you were able to follow that,  right?

The examples,  including Lamarckian Theory,  were to indicate ideas once held to be "common sense" until discredited by better observations and inferences from experimental results.   

No google needed.   Top of the head stuff for most sophomore science majors.

LOL
Well you made a further google search but came up a little short on Landmarckian theories.
Time does wound all heels. 

[kiidcarter8]

That's the same old bullshit ib]abstract[/b] that we already had, Kid, which I posted after you talked about it.



and CNN continues to ignore, calling the VA study of 368 patients the largest of its kind.

[kiidcarter8]

How many of these hydrochloroquine-induced "anecdotal" recoveries do you think there are?

Take a guess.

[Hairy Lime]

That's the same old bullshit ib]abstract[/b] that we already had, Kid, which I posted after you talked about it.



and CNN continues to ignore, calling the VA study of 368 patients the largest of its kind.

Because it is. An abstract to an unpublished study is not a study unless maybe it is in a Borges short story.

[josh]

Nobody expects a drug to work for everybody, asshole.


Right

But you discount that it works for some.

For some aspirin does nothing.  For some it is a lifesaver.

Take your fucking brain out of dry dock.

No, asshole.

I discount that we have EVIDENCE that it worked for anybody.

Same as I have pointed out the same for other things done without controls, except that in their cases, they have submitted their entire research for external examination, while your Frenchman has submitted nothing for external examination. Not the data. Not the analysis.

Remember the Santa Clara research that said up to 85 times as many people had COVID-19 as the official numbers? They put the whole paper out there, it got hammered, and they made adjustments.

These are the stories about him since April 11th:
https://www.google.com/search?q=didier+raoult+coronavirus+research&sxsrf=ALeKk01imdryho2Afb2Tee5W-JRATAAz9w%3A1588025205780&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A4%2F12%2F2020%2Ccd_max%3A4%2F27%2F2020&tbm=

You know how I know there is nothing? Because I keep looking for it, because, you fool, I would far rather be wrong than right! I would love for the poorly done abstract to be evidence that he should not write abstracts rather than that he is not actually doing science!

But I wait in vain. And talk to you just as purposelessly.

[josh]

That's the same old bullshit abstract that we already had, Kid, which I posted after you talked about it.



and CNN continues to ignore, calling the VA study of 368 patients the largest of its kind.

It is the largest of its kind.

You can't tell the difference, I get it. Didier's is thus far the only one of its kind and it is not comparable to the VA study. Stones to Apples.

[josh]

How many of these hydrochloroquine-induced "anecdotal" recoveries do you think there are?

Take a guess.

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Just as much evidence as your anecdotes.