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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo3]

Along with Dems in Congress/the US media storm that had to paint as bleak a picture as possible for our nation's hospitals - to make the President look bad.

This from the person who repeatedly says "led by the nose."

Your ignorant posturing that assumes everybody has the same motives as you and your fellow GOP members leads you to some of the stupidest statements this side of Donald "Badge of Honor" Trump.

The picture was bleak for some hospitals and will be bleak yet for others.

But not to FUCKING make the president look bad. To push the urgency of getting ready for what has been a catastrophe, but could have been far worse.

You're like (and likely were) one of the fools who complained that we made a big deal about Y2K when it was ultimately not a major problem and we wasted all that time and money...

when the time and money is why it was not such a big deal.

And as has been pointed out already and many times, Donald "I won't go golfing" Trump needs nobody's help to make him look bad.

[Echo3]

The real perspective is comparing the rate of deaths between those in nursing centers and rest homes.
In Canada 80% of the deaths were the elderly or those with other health issues, in Ohio it stands at 70 %,  and 65% for the USA.


The overwhelming majority of those who are at risk are not in the workforce, and the majority of them are already somewhat “locked down” in senior care facilities. We could have shielded them much more effectively with a healthy economy and hospital system with staff and cash from performing other procedures. Yet rather than learn from this simple data, mayors are pre-emptively canceling all summer events and colleges are altering schedules even for the fall!
The refusal of our government and media to more broadly publicize this information, broken down by age group, is going to accelerate the disproportionate degree of panic. This has real consequences for many other patients who are too scared to seek medical care because they wrongly fear death by COVID-19 more than their existing dangerous illness.
In the coming days, the public will be utterly shocked by how deeply we were lied to about the underlying premise and threat assessment behind the lockdown.


https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-new-study-demonstrates-low-coronavirus-fatality-rate-outside-nursing-homes/

Rewriting history (just to protect the president, as Kid would have it).

Cash was not what the homes needed. They needed to have been locked down sooner, as demonstrated by the significant number of homes that had no such problem.

The Conservative Misview ignores what happened in Sweden, which did not have this level of lockdown or anything close, and whose deaths among the elderly were an even higher percentage than ours.

But why let reality get in the way of a truly self-serving pack of lies?!

[REDSTATEWARD]

The real perspective is comparing the rate of deaths between those in nursing centers and rest homes.
In Canada 80% of the deaths were the elderly or those with other health issues, in Ohio it stands at 70 %,  and 65% for the USA.


The overwhelming majority of those who are at risk are not in the workforce, and the majority of them are already somewhat “locked down” in senior care facilities. We could have shielded them much more effectively with a healthy economy and hospital system with staff and cash from performing other procedures. Yet rather than learn from this simple data, mayors are pre-emptively canceling all summer events and colleges are altering schedules even for the fall!
The refusal of our government and media to more broadly publicize this information, broken down by age group, is going to accelerate the disproportionate degree of panic. This has real consequences for many other patients who are too scared to seek medical care because they wrongly fear death by COVID-19 more than their existing dangerous illness.
In the coming days, the public will be utterly shocked by how deeply we were lied to about the underlying premise and threat assessment behind the lockdown.


https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-new-study-demonstrates-low-coronavirus-fatality-rate-outside-nursing-homes/

Rewriting history (just to protect the president, as Kid would have it).

Cash was not what the homes needed. They needed to have been locked down sooner, as demonstrated by the significant number of homes that had no such problem.

The Conservative Misview ignores what happened in Sweden, which did not have this level of lockdown or anything close, and whose deaths among the elderly were an even higher percentage than ours.

Sweden, in treating the elderly, made the same mistake as everyone else in not recognizing immediately the need to pour more resources into elderly care.
But by avoiding a crushing lockdown ilit gave all its citizens a much better chance to get care for other medical and psychological problems brought on by a collapsing economy.

[LarryBnDC]

The real perspective is comparing the rate of deaths between those in nursing centers and rest homes.
In Canada 80% of the deaths were the elderly or those with other health issues, in Ohio it stands at 70 %,  and 65% for the USA.


The overwhelming majority of those who are at risk are not in the workforce, and the majority of them are already somewhat “locked down” in senior care facilities. We could have shielded them much more effectively with a healthy economy and hospital system with staff and cash from performing other procedures. Yet rather than learn from this simple data, mayors are pre-emptively canceling all summer events and colleges are altering schedules even for the fall!
The refusal of our government and media to more broadly publicize this information, broken down by age group, is going to accelerate the disproportionate degree of panic. This has real consequences for many other patients who are too scared to seek medical care because they wrongly fear death by COVID-19 more than their existing dangerous illness.
In the coming days, the public will be utterly shocked by how deeply we were lied to about the underlying premise and threat assessment behind the lockdown.


https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-new-study-demonstrates-low-coronavirus-fatality-rate-outside-nursing-homes/

“Our text for today will be from the Book of Wonder where we will attempt to find out the undefinable -- ponder over the imponderable -- and unscrew the inscrutable!

But before we begin I’d like to address the controversy over the baptisms during last week’s revival because... three or four people drowned.

THEY WERE OLD PEOPLES! I did not know they had asthma!”

[barton]

So now Ward's a champion of better healthcare for seniors, especially those of lower income.   Let me be the first to welcome him to the Democratic Party.   

[LarryBnDC]

So now Ward's a champion of better healthcare for seniors, especially those of lower income.   Let me be the first to welcome him to the Democratic Party.

[LarryBnDC]

This looks interesting. Could be a good thing. Could be a game changer. Could be a dud.
Time will tell.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cuba/cuba-credits-two-drugs-with-slashing-coronavirus-death-toll-idUSKBN22Y2Y4?feedType=mktg&feedName=healthNews&WT.mc_id=Partner-Google&fbclid=IwAR34b9eelnNjXTIFTsSPv9hwzqpBkotwZzNtu4l9AD2AVfHtwlcgzU86lkc

[josh]

Sweden, in treating the elderly, made the same mistake as everyone else in not recognizing immediately the need to pour more resources into elderly care.
But by avoiding a crushing lockdown ilit gave all its citizens a much better chance to get care for other medical and psychological problems brought on by a collapsing economy.

No, Ward. Still bullshit.

There is no evidence to support your supposition that that made difference, let alone a significant one.

And you still ignore that they have had 4 to 9 times the death rate of their neighbors.

Maybe you mean they will be better prepared to deal with the psychological trauma caused by excessive deaths that their policy brought on.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/ozarks-missouri-party/index.html

[facilitatorn]

With the United States crossing the 100,000 deaths from Covid milestone tonight, it’s no wonder trump is feeling so inferior and defeated. He has retreated to the only place left he still thinks his cheating works, not his marriage or his business or his office, but to a golf course.

Shank!

Fore!

Flaming idiot playing through!

It not that the dotard is hitting them way off to the right. It’s the ground under his feet moving to the left so quickly that is causing him the problems.

Trump swears he can still pull himself to par or near it in his few remaining holes.

Now who are you going to believe, his fat ass or your lying eyes?

[facilitatorn]

http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/one-one-hundred-thousand/612022/

Paul and Barbara were both great teachers, by the way.

[facilitatorn]

Now it is time for America to turn its attention to burying trump and laying him finally to rest before Labor Day.

Fortunately, he creates steaming piles all around him wherever he goes.

I’ve sharpened my shovel, have you?

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/05/22/for-schools-to-re-open-safely-we-need-to-let-teachers-lead-the-way/

$250,000.00 to each individual teacher should go a little way to help.

We should really give each one $500,000.00 considering the enormity of the job we’re giving them.

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/ozarks-missouri-party/index.html

Reminds me of the disco scene in Gammera The Invincible.’

[kiidcarter8]

http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/one-one-hundred-thousand/612022/

Paul and Barbara were both great teachers, by the way.

Thee sad part is they could have HAD funerals, safely.