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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42870 on: July 15, 2020, 02:52:16 AM »

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City of St. Petersburg, Florida and St. Petersburg Police Department leaders are announcing a big change. Starting Oct. 1, Officers will no longer respond to non-violent social service calls (mental health, homeless issues, substance abuse, suicide, disorderly students in school etc.) in #StPete. Instead, they’ll use social workers. This is in direct response to #GeorgeFloydProtests. It also means St Pete will no longer hire 25 officers over the next two years. They will instead use that money to create this community assistance liaison program
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42871 on: July 15, 2020, 02:53:52 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/us/new-mexico-militia-group-lawsuit/index.html


 Lots of luck to them

I love how you're all over us for our alleged failure to be upset over this death or that, but all you have to say to these folks is "lots of luck to them."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42872 on: July 15, 2020, 02:58:53 AM »

This is the New Zealand national government's FB page for working to stop COVID-19:
https://www.facebook.com/UniteAgainstCOVID19

Just imagine if our government were as proactive as the Kiwis are.

And none your BS about size. Their being small is not what allows them to have a plan or a FB page. It's not what allows there to be levels of alerts, based on local circumstances.

Organization does that. Competence. And cooperation with one another.

This is an example of one of their posts:
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Update from the Ministry of Health ​

Today there are 2 new cases of COVID-19 to report in managed isolation facilities in New Zealand. ​ ​

It has been 75 days since the last case of COVID-19 was acquired locally from an unknown source. Our total number of active cases is ​ 27 - all are in quarantine. ​

The first of today’s cases is a man in his 60s who arrived on 10 July from Pakistan via Dubai. He is at the Sudima hotel in Rotorua and tested positive at the day 3 routine testing during his time in managed isolation. ​

The second case is a woman in her 50s who arrived on 10 July from Dublin via Dubai. She is also staying at the Sudima Hotel in Rotorua and likewise tested positive on the day 3 routine testing. ​

Our total number of confirmed cases is 1,197, which is the number we report to the World Health Organization.​

There is no one in New Zealand receiving hospital-level care for COVID-19.​

Yesterday our laboratories completed 2,061 tests, of those 902 were testing of people in managed isolation and quarantine for the routine testing on either days 3 or 12 of their stay. That brings the total number of tests completed to date to 433,324. ​

Yesterday we issued updated guidance for clinicians around testing for COVID-19 in the community. The updated advice clarifies for health professionals which of the lower risk symptomatic people should be tested in the community. This is testing of people with respiratory symptoms. ​

All the people who are classified as being high index of suspicion, for example because they work at the border or they live with a family member who is a member of international air crew, are already being tested. This guidance clarifies the other groups of lower risk people in the community who should be tested. This includes people who are at higher risk of complications should they get COVID-19: older people, people with pre-existing medical conditions and also our Maori and Pasifika communities. Just to reiterate, this is testing of people with respiratory symptoms. ​

We will continue testing in the community as part of our ongoing strategy to continue with the elimination of COVID-19. ​ ​

Anyone with respiratory symptoms should call their GP or Healthline on 0800 611 116 to get advice on getting a test. Testing is free in NZ.​

The Government has developed a “Stamp it Out” plan for responding to new cases of COVID-19 in the community should there be a resurgence of cases in NZ. Ongoing elimination will remain as the strategy for dealing with COVID-19 to keep New Zealanders safe and support New Zealand’s continued economic recovery.​

Strong border measures have played a critical part in our response and will continue to do so for some time. But even with these measures, new cases in the community are a realistic possibility given that the global situation has become worse over the past four months. ​

The public and businesses will continue to have a major role to play in the fight against COVID-19 in the event of new cases in the community. If there are new cases in the community, our public health measures of personal hygiene, testing, contact tracing, and isolation will continue to be the core of our response. ​

The existing Alert Levels framework will be used but adapted to the specific circumstances, including applying the Alert Levels at a regional or local level. For an overview of the alert levels, visit https://covid19.govt.nz/…/restrictio…/alert-system-overview/

Again, we cannot be complacent. We encourage all businesses to generate and display their QR codes to help individuals keep track of their movements. Everyone should make an effort to keep a record of their whereabouts.This can be done manually or via the COVID-19 tracer app.

Govt tracking?
Americans would 'submit' to that?

Pop of NZ......4.8 million...no states...it's like a big country town when compared to America.
Children in NZ...1.1 million
People over 65 in NZ...711,000

It's easier to manage than USA...no 20 million people close-living like in NY...for example.
No 50 states with their own govts.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 03:02:22 AM by bambu. »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42873 on: July 15, 2020, 03:07:28 AM »

This is the New Zealand national government's FB page for working to stop COVID-19:
https://www.facebook.com/UniteAgainstCOVID19

Just imagine if our government were as proactive as the Kiwis are.

And none your BS about size. Their being small is not what allows them to have a plan or a FB page. It's not what allows there to be levels of alerts, based on local circumstances.

Organization does that. Competence. And cooperation with one another.

This is an example of one of their posts:
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Update from the Ministry of Health ​

Today there are 2 new cases of COVID-19 to report in managed isolation facilities in New Zealand. ​ ​

It has been 75 days since the last case of COVID-19 was acquired locally from an unknown source. Our total number of active cases is ​ 27 - all are in quarantine. ​

The first of today’s cases is a man in his 60s who arrived on 10 July from Pakistan via Dubai. He is at the Sudima hotel in Rotorua and tested positive at the day 3 routine testing during his time in managed isolation. ​

The second case is a woman in her 50s who arrived on 10 July from Dublin via Dubai. She is also staying at the Sudima Hotel in Rotorua and likewise tested positive on the day 3 routine testing. ​

Our total number of confirmed cases is 1,197, which is the number we report to the World Health Organization.​

There is no one in New Zealand receiving hospital-level care for COVID-19.​

Yesterday our laboratories completed 2,061 tests, of those 902 were testing of people in managed isolation and quarantine for the routine testing on either days 3 or 12 of their stay. That brings the total number of tests completed to date to 433,324. ​

Yesterday we issued updated guidance for clinicians around testing for COVID-19 in the community. The updated advice clarifies for health professionals which of the lower risk symptomatic people should be tested in the community. This is testing of people with respiratory symptoms. ​

All the people who are classified as being high index of suspicion, for example because they work at the border or they live with a family member who is a member of international air crew, are already being tested. This guidance clarifies the other groups of lower risk people in the community who should be tested. This includes people who are at higher risk of complications should they get COVID-19: older people, people with pre-existing medical conditions and also our Maori and Pasifika communities. Just to reiterate, this is testing of people with respiratory symptoms. ​

We will continue testing in the community as part of our ongoing strategy to continue with the elimination of COVID-19. ​ ​

Anyone with respiratory symptoms should call their GP or Healthline on 0800 611 116 to get advice on getting a test. Testing is free in NZ.​

The Government has developed a “Stamp it Out” plan for responding to new cases of COVID-19 in the community should there be a resurgence of cases in NZ. Ongoing elimination will remain as the strategy for dealing with COVID-19 to keep New Zealanders safe and support New Zealand’s continued economic recovery.​

Strong border measures have played a critical part in our response and will continue to do so for some time. But even with these measures, new cases in the community are a realistic possibility given that the global situation has become worse over the past four months. ​

The public and businesses will continue to have a major role to play in the fight against COVID-19 in the event of new cases in the community. If there are new cases in the community, our public health measures of personal hygiene, testing, contact tracing, and isolation will continue to be the core of our response. ​

The existing Alert Levels framework will be used but adapted to the specific circumstances, including applying the Alert Levels at a regional or local level. For an overview of the alert levels, visit https://covid19.govt.nz/…/restrictio…/alert-system-overview/

Again, we cannot be complacent. We encourage all businesses to generate and display their QR codes to help individuals keep track of their movements. Everyone should make an effort to keep a record of their whereabouts.This can be done manually or via the COVID-19 tracer app.

Govt tracking?
Americans would 'submit' to that?

Pop of NZ......4.8 million...no states...it's like a big country town when compared to America.
Children in NZ...1.1 million
People over 65 in NZ...711,000

It's easier to manage than USA...no 20 million people close-living like in NY...for example.
No 50 states with their own govts.

I expected your bullshit.

1) Having the alert levels is not a matter of size.
2) Having the information readily available for people publicly is not a matter of size.
3) We have states smaller than NZ and any of them could have picked up the methodology, too, or the federal government could have said "Hey, this is what we are doing and we encourage you to emulate it. We will provide the underpinnings for you." But instead, our government made promises and never came through with them, while leaving the states high and dry.
4) If the federal government had acted in concert with the states, the vast majority of people would have accepted the tracing, etc. And that, Bambi, would have been ample to make this a far less virulent and destructive crisis.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #42874 on: July 15, 2020, 03:10:22 AM »

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« Reply #42876 on: July 15, 2020, 03:15:10 AM »



It is a crime family & she did spend a little too much time on daddy’s knee growing up.

It is all well documented.
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« Reply #42878 on: July 15, 2020, 08:07:18 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/us/new-mexico-militia-group-lawsuit/index.html


 Lots of luck to them

The defendants used the term “laughable” to describe the suit.
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« Reply #42880 on: July 15, 2020, 08:28:41 AM »

OMG - Mary Trump is so un-hot.

You have daughters, no?

Funny thing, it wasn’t raising my girl child that made me less of down low sexist jerk it was raising my son.

Who raised Nick Cannon?
Because they failed: https://news.yahoo.com/viacomcbs-drops-nick-cannon-cites-053758452.html
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« Reply #42881 on: July 15, 2020, 08:52:12 AM »

OMG - Mary Trump is so un-hot.

You have daughters, no?

Funny thing, it wasn’t raising my girl child that made me less of down low sexist jerk it was raising my son.

Who raised Nick Cannon?
Because they failed: https://news.yahoo.com/viacomcbs-drops-nick-cannon-cites-053758452.html

Yeah, so?

Cannon’s been a jerk for a very long time. What’s that go to do with me?
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« Reply #42882 on: July 15, 2020, 09:16:47 AM »

NEW RULES (apologies to Bill Maher)


Whoever types or alludes to "dead kids" on this forum is an asshole.

Dead older relatives of kids.   And before anyone bleats "don't visit grandma, " a reminder that a significant number of kids are raised by grandparents or other older relative,  or someone with a PEC.   Or receive childcare from.   
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« Reply #42883 on: July 15, 2020, 09:27:15 AM »

OMG - Mary Trump is so un-hot.

You have daughters, no?

Funny thing, it wasn’t raising my girl child that made me less of down low sexist jerk it was raising my son.

Who raised Nick Cannon?
Because they failed: https://news.yahoo.com/viacomcbs-drops-nick-cannon-cites-053758452.html

Yeah, so?

Cannon’s been a jerk for a very long time. What’s that go to do with me?
If I had to guess, I would say it is the whole racist "All blacks are answerable for all other blacks" thing.
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« Reply #42884 on: July 15, 2020, 09:30:09 AM »

Yep. Woe to anyone who tries to consider various points of view.

I've certainly seen that mentality displayed here.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ny-times-opinion-editor-bari-155524356.html

The NYTs approach has been a poor one.   Opinion pieces are opinions, and a paper doesn't have to endorse them.   If such pieces contain factual errors,  a note indicating this can be attached as an intro/advisory.   The Post does a much better job with this.  It's good to provide a window into how the Right is thinking.   
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