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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/22/washington-postal-workers-defy-usps-orders-and-reinstall-mail-sorting-machines/#4680d26e5f80

Some people understand that slowing the delivery of mail is a serious crime not to be tolerated.

[josh]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/arkham-board-of-health-feedback-on-miskatonic-universitys-draft-plan-for-a-safe-campus-reopening

[bambu.]

Just watched on my tv news the rioting in Portland.
87th straight day.
BLM protesters attacked people holding a "Support the Police" rally.
Hand to hand combat plus explosives.

[facilitatorn]

Only an Australian or a total idiot would mistake a Klan rally for something to “support the police”.

Don’t be on the side of the terrorists, Bambi.

[bambu.]

Only an Australian or a total idiot would mistake a Klan rally for something to “support the police”.

Don’t be on the side of the terrorists, Bambi.

That's what the news said it was.
The cops just stood by watching...lol
"Anarchy across America"  it said.

Also showed rioting in Charlotte where Trump's convention is going to be.
One placard "God Bless America"...another "Patriot"...no cops visible...a burning flag...pepper spray fired by both sides...rioting.

[facilitatorn]

Trump promised American carnage and he is delivering. He cannot follow law or maintain order. That’s why we’re booting him, charging him, trying him, and locking him up.

There’s no guarantee that will let us put the genie back in the bottle, but you’ve got to at the very least cut the head off the snake both in the name of justice and to set a good example.

If the program you are watching or article you are reading has the word fox associated with it, it is not news. It is poison put out to make unsuspecting victims subhumanly stupid.

Don’t eat the yellow snow, as they say in places that get snow.

[facilitatorn]

http://mobile.twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1296983152292794368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1296983152292794368%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2020%2F8%2F23%2F1971577%2F-GOP-believes-that-Trump-is-a-vaccine-and-three-good-debates-away-from-victory

[bambu.]

Not fox...my free to air channels 9 and 10.
5pm and 6pm news Sunday night.
Baseball bats, placards, and weapons used to beat those on the other side.

It's snowing across much of the mountain areas in SSW NSW and into Vic state.
As I don't eat wild "mushrooms", I don't eat snow of any kind.

Wise people in America will be staying home...one could get hurt or worse in riots.

[bambu.]

People in North and South Carolina have a right to exist ...as do their states.
They have the right to hold Trump conventions if they want to...and should be able to without rioters causing trouble.

[barton]

Thanks for that Hayes-Tilden article,  Josh.   Fascinating.  And that kind of deal with the devil only fucks up the nation for a century or so,  right?

The deal with the devil was that it took that long before somebody took that much advantage of the system. What we are seeing today is just another of the thoroughly predictable aspects of the Constitution.

The Articles of Confederacy had their own issues, but were not vulnerable to this kind of power grabbing demagoguery. Thomas Jefferson demonstrated quite ably just how easy it was for a Chief Executive under the Constitution to ignore its limits so long as Congress would go along with him and the Courts were not called upon. Andrew Jackson demonstrated that even when the Court's authority was summoned, if the Chief Executive chose not to heed it and the Senate would do nothing, the Justices were impotent even if they chose not to be blind.

Of course, they chose to be blind sufficiently frequently along the way that relying on them has seemed pretty futile too much of the time, anyway. ( Dred Scott, Plessy v. Ferguson, Buck v. Bell, Korematsu v. United States, Chae Chan Ping v. United States, McCleskey v. Kemp, Kelo v. City of New London, Bennis v. Michigan... and that's without getting into Citizens United or Berghuis v. Thompkins or Gore v. Bush.) (At least Dred Scott and Plessy have been reversed. Korematsu has been declared bad law, yet its practices seem to be allowed to continue. I suspect that under this Court that Buck would pass again, depending upon the population being involuntarily sterilized. Ditto Chae Chan Ping.)

But... the practices that brought us President Hayes are almost demanded of a "true patriot," who believes that only one individual can save the nation.

The great Compromise that gave Hayes the White House was a disaster for black Americans. The democrats’ condition was the end of Reconstruction and complete democrat rule of the southern states. (Which Hayes consented to) It proved to be disastrous for Southern blacks. Their vote was suppressed, racism flourished, so did the KKK, And Jim Crow eventually came into power. 
.That’s a chapter of the story you neglected.

But which THE ARTICLE JOSH POSTED DISCUSSED IN SOME DETAIL.   TRY READING.

I did 
Not sure what your response is supposed to mean other than my post proved to be true

Your snide comment to Josh was false.

You told Josh:  "That’s a chapter of the story you neglected."

My later post pointed out that the dismal effects of Hayes-Tilden - which no one here disputes at all - were discussed in the article Josh posted.   Therefore,  he did not neglect that story,  and in fact was the one who posted it.   Your rhetorical stab at him,  that he was neglecting the results of that infamous horsetrading,  was false.   

Either you lied,  or you didn't bother to read past the first couple paragraphs of the NYer piece.   

[josh]

Only an Australian or a total idiot would mistake a Klan rally for something to “support the police”.

Don’t be on the side of the terrorists, Bambi.

That's what the news said it was.
The cops just stood by watching...lol
"Anarchy across America"  it said.

Remember how we keep telling you that you need new television to watch? That would be an example of why. Your "news" is blatantly lying to you.

[josh]

Not fox...my free to air channels 9 and 10.
5pm and 6pm news Sunday night.
Baseball bats, placards, and weapons used to beat those on the other side.

It's snowing across much of the mountain areas in SSW NSW and into Vic state.
As I don't eat wild "mushrooms", I don't eat snow of any kind.

Wise people in America will be staying home...one could get hurt or worse in riots.

What percentage of America is engulfed in riots, do you think?

What percentage of Portland is engulfed in riots, do you think?

[barton]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/arkham-board-of-health-feedback-on-miskatonic-universitys-draft-plan-for-a-safe-campus-reopening

Lovecraft endures!   

We are definitely in the mountains of madness.   

[REDSTATEWARD]

[
Your snide comment to Josh was false.

You told Josh:  "That’s a chapter of the story you neglected."

My later post pointed out that the dismal effects of Hayes-Tilden - which no one here disputes at all - were discussed in the article Josh posted.   Therefore,  he did not neglect that story,  and in fact was the one who posted it.   Your rhetorical stab at him,  that he was neglecting the results of that infamous horsetrading,  was false.   

Either you lied,  or you didn't bother to read past the first couple paragraphs of the NYer piece.

The cited Article only  touched on the real tragedy of the Hayes/Tilden Compromise without detailing what ensued. 85 years of Southern democrats disenfranchising black voters.
No one who read the article was presented those facts in any sort of detail.

[josh]

http://mobile.twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1296983152292794368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1296983152292794368%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2020%2F8%2F23%2F1971577%2F-GOP-believes-that-Trump-is-a-vaccine-and-three-good-debates-away-from-victory

They should keep believing that - and expecting it.

Only one of the contested states starts any voting after the last debate. Some of them start in September! The value of that last debate is pretty questionable. Even the window for an "October surprise" is pretty narrow.

Arizona Oct. 7
Colorado starts mailing out their all mail-in ballots on Oct. 9
Florida Oct. 24 at the latest, but some counties may start as early as Oct. 19.
Georgia Oct. 8
Iowa Oct.5
Maine Oct. 4
Michigan Sept. 19
Minnesota Sept. 18
Nebraska Oct. 4
New Hampshire has no early voting, but is allowing COVID-19 as a reason for absentee voting. No release date yet for ballots.
North Carolina Oct. 15
Ohio Oct. 5
Pennsylvania - no early voting, but anybody can vote by mail, ballots are expected to be available as early as Sept. 14
Texas Oct. 12
Wisconsin Oct 19 or before for "in person absentee voting" which anyone may do, no excuse needed.