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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hairy Lime]

So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.
So did Fauci who knew more that both Trump and Pelosi knew 

Pelosi did not know just as much as Trump did, no matter how often you repeat the claim that she did.

Of course she did. Unless you think she is stupid.

No, I think YOU are stupid.

I think TRUMP is stupid.

I think Trump controlled the flow of information, as has been demonstrated several times over, including from Woodward's tapes. And if all the governors and Pelosi had the information that Trump had a bunch of governors would have behaved differently. And Pelosi would have, as well.

From KPCW:

As late as February 29, Surgeon General Jerome Adams was telling Americans on Twitter to stop buying masks, saying they are "NOT effective." But the guidance soon changed, and by early April the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began recommending that Americans wear face coverings in public. Even then, however, President Trump said he would not be wearing a mask himself.

Had Trump pushed masks when the CDC did, lives would have been saved. Do you dispute that, Ward? Kid?

This is when Trump knew the coronavirus was airborne:

On Feb. 7, during a taped interview with Bob Woodward, President Trump acknowledged that the coronavirus could be transmitted through the air, that it was very dangerous and that it would be difficult to contain. “This is deadly stuff,” he told the investigative journalist.

“You just breathe the air, and that’s how it’s passed,” the president warned.

On February 19th, the Chinese admitted that the coronavirus could be spread through the air:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshp3uZzHTw

Tell me how Pelosi was supposed to know or the governors were when the Chinese had not told anybody yet?

You keep saying the information was available to anybody, Ward. IT WAS NOT!

WTF do I waste my time with you? You cannot admit an error and you don't accept evidence.

Your entire post evaded Pelosi and her knowledge (as the Speaker of the House and privy to the most meaningful information) of the deadliness of the virus.
You are totally clueless to how our Government  works.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1K6zcloUmCU

[kiidcarter8]

Democrats were bit - and continue to be this election - when they created soundbites driven by their hatred of this president.  When Trump zigged, they zagged - thus denying severity of the virus in public settings/speeches - at what turned out to be inappropriate times.

When Trump stopped the planes from Asia, what did Dems then need to do?


How about Europe?

CRITICIZE and hope for negative fallout they could then spin to advantage.

“HELL NO YOU CANT!”

— John Boehner

Merrick Garland!

Take a seat.

uhh..

what?

[barton]

I'm saving my panic response for November 4, when there's an orange goon who won't leave 1600 Pennsylvania.   At that point,  squirrels can have my house and meth lords can babysit my grandchildren and the Entarte Kunst squads can turn flamethrowers on all my papers and music scores and I'll be calm about it,  if someone can just pop the lingering pustule in chief.   

[kiidcarter8]

https://secondnexus.com/tillis-apologizes-cancer-survivor-healthcare

Tills staff member penalized for saying out loud what the GOP position really is.

Senator apologizes for that rare moment of honesty, while still not doing anything to help the constituent.

Apologizing for how the message was delivered, not the message itself.  The Republican party is the party of unfettered capitalism.  As long as the rich get richer the machine is working properly.  People who vote for them should know that the Republicans in charge don't care about the voter.

a) this is not true.  Plenty of filthy capitalists are Democrat.
b) So what?

[josh]

https://secondnexus.com/tillis-apologizes-cancer-survivor-healthcare

Tills staff member penalized for saying out loud what the GOP position really is.

Senator apologizes for that rare moment of honesty, while still not doing anything to help the constituent.

Apologizing for how the message was delivered, not the message itself.  The Republican party is the party of unfettered capitalism.  As long as the rich get richer the machine is working properly.  People who vote for them should know that the Republicans in charge don't care about the voter.

a) this is not true.  Plenty of filthy capitalists are Democrat.
b) So what?

And it is that attitude that causes us to hate Trump - he feels the same way.

And it is why we hate you, too. You illustrate that sentiment, same as Ward, consistently.

"So what?"

[josh]

All fires on the West Coast.

This is north suburban DC today:

[facilitatorn]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bret-baier-reacts-trump-woodward-book-fallout

The important things to make clear were things trump knew and withheld or knew and contradicted. Manslaughter x 200,000. If there was confusion in the beginning of the year, it was actively created by trump.

The NBA and Tom Hanks saved more than 300,000 lives so far by cluing the country in to the fact the trump and the republicans are all lying pieces of shit and that something really serious was going on.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Trump downplayed masks for months longer.  Months. And he is doing it again, now. NOT THE SAME, Asshole.

It has to be said, he not only downplayed masks, he actively sabotaged compliance by making wearing one a political litmus test.

And added to that by mocking Biden for wearing one, which he has done repeatedly.

Biden?Who called for mandatory masks, but now changes his mind?

[Hamilton Samuels]

So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.
So did Fauci who knew more that both Trump and Pelosi knew 

Pelosi did not know just as much as Trump did, no matter how often you repeat the claim that she did.

Of course she did. Unless you think she is stupid.

No, I think YOU are stupid.

I think TRUMP is stupid.

I think Trump controlled the flow of information, as has been demonstrated several times over, including from Woodward's tapes. And if all the governors and Pelosi had the information that Trump had a bunch of governors would have behaved differently. And Pelosi would have, as well.

From KPCW:

As late as February 29, Surgeon General Jerome Adams was telling Americans on Twitter to stop buying masks, saying they are "NOT effective." But the guidance soon changed, and by early April the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began recommending that Americans wear face coverings in public. Even then, however, President Trump said he would not be wearing a mask himself.

Had Trump pushed masks when the CDC did, lives would have been saved. Do you dispute that, Ward? Kid?

This is when Trump knew the coronavirus was airborne:

On Feb. 7, during a taped interview with Bob Woodward, President Trump acknowledged that the coronavirus could be transmitted through the air, that it was very dangerous and that it would be difficult to contain. “This is deadly stuff,” he told the investigative journalist.

“You just breathe the air, and that’s how it’s passed,” the president warned.

On February 19th, the Chinese admitted that the coronavirus could be spread through the air:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshp3uZzHTw

Tell me how Pelosi was supposed to know or the governors were when the Chinese had not told anybody yet?

You keep saying the information was available to anybody, Ward. IT WAS NOT!

WTF do I waste my time with you? You cannot admit an error and you don't accept evidence.

Your entire post evaded Pelosi and her knowledge (as the Speaker of the House and privy to the most meaningful information) of the deadliness of the virus.
You are totally clueless to how our Government  works.

LMFAO! THE TRULY CLUELESS would be one who thinks he can automatically toss out an unfounded "whataboutism" in order to deflect criticism from the well documented dereliction of duty that Trump has perpetrated on the American people!

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-bedford-public-schools-trump-quiz

No place for such bias in our schools

[REDSTATEWARD]

So did Pelosi, who knew just as much as Trump did.
So did Fauci who knew more that both Trump and Pelosi knew 

Pelosi did not know just as much as Trump did, no matter how often you repeat the claim that she did.

Of course she did. Unless you think she is stupid.

No, I think YOU are stupid.

I think TRUMP is stupid.

I think Trump controlled the flow of information, as has been demonstrated several times over, including from Woodward's tapes. And if all the governors and Pelosi had the information that Trump had a bunch of governors would have behaved differently. And Pelosi would have, as well.

From KPCW:

As late as February 29, Surgeon General Jerome Adams was telling Americans on Twitter to stop buying masks, saying they are "NOT effective." But the guidance soon changed, and by early April the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began recommending that Americans wear face coverings in public. Even then, however, President Trump said he would not be wearing a mask himself.

Had Trump pushed masks when the CDC did, lives would have been saved. Do you dispute that, Ward? Kid?

This is when Trump knew the coronavirus was airborne:

On Feb. 7, during a taped interview with Bob Woodward, President Trump acknowledged that the coronavirus could be transmitted through the air, that it was very dangerous and that it would be difficult to contain. “This is deadly stuff,” he told the investigative journalist.

“You just breathe the air, and that’s how it’s passed,” the president warned.

On February 19th, the Chinese admitted that the coronavirus could be spread through the air:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshp3uZzHTw

Tell me how Pelosi was supposed to know or the governors were when the Chinese had not told anybody yet?

You keep saying the information was available to anybody, Ward. IT WAS NOT!

WTF do I waste my time with you? You cannot admit an error and you don't accept evidence.

Your entire post evaded Pelosi and her knowledge (as the Speaker of the House and privy to the most meaningful information) of the deadliness of the virus.
You are totally clueless to how our Government  works.

No, it didn't. It asked you a question. You ducked the question.

Trump knew. He did not tell anybody else. Contrary to your claims it was not public knowledge.

It most certainly was.

Trump knew because XI told him, not our own intelligence services.


Pelosi learned it when China announced it, almost two weeks later.

You are delusional(not to mention stupid)

And, as ever, you want to pretend Trump did everything right.

I never said Trump did everything right.  I only pointed out he was not the only President(or head of state) to try to avoid panicking a country.

[facilitatorn]

I'm saving my panic response for November 4, when there's an orange goon who won't leave 1600 Pennsylvania.   At that point,  squirrels can have my house and meth lords can babysit my grandchildren and the Entarte Kunst squads can turn flamethrowers on all my papers and music scores and I'll be calm about it,  if someone can just pop the lingering pustule in chief.

Why wait?

[josh]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-bedford-public-schools-trump-quiz

No place for such bias in our schools

How do you feel about textbooks that say that slavery was not the cause of the secession by the southern states?

[josh]

I'm saving my panic response for November 4, when there's an orange goon who won't leave 1600 Pennsylvania.   At that point,  squirrels can have my house and meth lords can babysit my grandchildren and the Entarte Kunst squads can turn flamethrowers on all my papers and music scores and I'll be calm about it,  if someone can just pop the lingering pustule in chief.

Why wait?

RAGE fatigue

[josh]

I think it ought to also say, intermittently, "There is no fire! It's a hoax!"