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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Touche' - found your 52% poll


https://hamodia.com/2020/09/09/poll-biden-leads-trump-12-points-among-likely-voters/

I see three at 53% and two at 52%, Kid. You make up shit as much as Trump.

Monmouth*   9/3 - 9/8   758 LV   3.6   51   44   Biden +7
Economist/YouGov   9/6 - 9/8   1057 LV   3.8   52   43   Biden +9
The Hill/HarrisX   9/5 - 9/8   2832 RV   1.8   47   39   Biden +8
Reuters/Ipsos   9/3 - 9/8   823 LV   3.9   52   40   Biden +12
Rasmussen Reports   9/2 - 9/8   2500 LV   2.0   48   46   Biden +2
USC Dornsife   9/4 - 9/10   2631 LV   --   53   41   Biden +12
CNBC/Change Research (D)*   9/4 - 9/6   1902 LV   2.3   49   43   Biden +6
Harvard-Harris   8/31 - 9/2   LV   --   53   47   Biden +6
Emerson   8/30 - 8/31   1567 LV   2.4   49   47   Biden +2
IBD/TIPP   8/29 - 9/1   1033 RV   --   49   41   Biden +8
CNN   8/28 - 9/1   997 RV   4.0   51   43   Biden +8
USA Today/Suffolk   8/28 - 8/31   1000 RV   3.1   50   43   Biden +7
Quinnipiac   8/28 - 8/31   1081 LV   3.0   52   42   Biden +10

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Real Clear Politics conveniently erased Rasmussen from their final chart

Not just their final chart, Kid. There is nothing Rasmussen after July!

That is very curious.

As I said, Rasmussen stopped polling it as a two person race.

[Hairy Lime]

I agree with that. My biggest fear.

I could be wrong, you could be right, who knows.

But with Kanye, the discrediting of mail-in-ballots, the sabotaging of the Post Office, the welcoming of Russian Disinfo, the talk of delaying the election, the refusal to say that he will concede...

Trump doesn't seem as confident that these secret voters exist.

We'll see.  I hope to be really wrong.  My "knowledge" of secret Trump voters is hardly based on any scientific analysis but rather on the large group of people I know who quietly claim to not like Trump personally and do not even think he's done that great a job, but plan to vote for him anyway.  Extrapolated to larger-sized groups and this is a big problem.  One that I'm not certain polling can take into account.  Not everybody is as obnoxious and obvious about their upcoming Trump vote as is Kid.

I am not sure that there is a significantly large number of secret Trump voters. His vote totals in 2016 were in line with his polling. If there was an issue in 2016 it probably had more to do with his opponent than undeclared Trumpists. That is why that Comey letter was such a dagger. "Jesus, four more years of THIS shit?" Kept people home, swung some voters at the end. I think Trump's people agree. Their entire strategy seems more aimed at suppressing Biden votes with negative campaigning than increasing their vote share.

When we start getting more "likely voter" polls, those might understate Trumpikely voters, because they seem now to be, not so much shrinking violet undeclared Trumpists, but loud, aggressive and pissed.

[Hairy Lime]

So Gov. Brown of Oregon revealed yesterday that she still hasn't talked to the White House about the fires because they haven't yet returned his call.  The State is current'y facing the prospect of mass evacuations, with no coordination from the Executive Branch.

But you know, Oregon is a Blue State.  And only Trump's friends should expect aid when they need it:

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/747196568/russia-says-trump-offered-to-help-putin-fight-forest-fires-in-siberia

Never mind that he was elected to be President of the United States.

Whose calls have not been returned? You meant "her calls", right?

I was laughing at one of the few moments of the RNC I caught before going on vacation, where the governor of Iowa spoke of how quickly Trump responded with an emergency declaration.  Because, of course he did. Oregon, Washington and Cali have Democratic governors.

[kiidcarter8]

Real Clear Politics conveniently erased Rasmussen from their final chart

Not just their final chart, Kid. There is nothing Rasmussen after July!

That is very curious.

As I said, Rasmussen stopped polling it as a two person race.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_nov7

[kiidcarter8]

So Gov. Brown of Oregon revealed yesterday that she still hasn't talked to the White House about the fires because they haven't yet returned his call. 



lol

[NeedsAdjustments]

Real Clear Politics conveniently erased Rasmussen from their final chart

Not just their final chart, Kid. There is nothing Rasmussen after July!

That is very curious.

As I said, Rasmussen stopped polling it as a two person race.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_nov7

Do you think this contradicts what I posted?

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So Gov. Brown of Oregon revealed yesterday that she still hasn't talked to the White House about the fires because they haven't yet returned his call. 



lol

Trump doesn't give a shit about the lives of Americans who live in Blue States, the large majority of the US population.  Some "president."

So funny.  LOL.

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Whose calls have not been returned? You meant "her calls", right?

Yes, thats what I meant.

For fun I scrolled through Trump's twitter to see if his thumbs had any time for the events in the West that will end up displacing over a million Americans.  Nada.

I guess he just doesn't want people to panic.

[bodiddley]

Trump tells Woodward on Feb 7 that the virus travels by air.  After that he held another month and a half of rallies with people packed close together.  What the fuck?

We knew in January it spread by air.
It's a coronavirus, which initially was known to cause pneumonia.  A respiratory disease.  The only issue was how easily transmissible it was and how deadly.

Evidence was mounting it spread pretty well by mid-January, as it started to turn up in many parts of China, in Thailand, in Singapore and Japan.  Which was confirmed when China's leader Xi made a TV appearance to discuss the virus on Jan 20 and then Wuhan was put under strict quarantine on Jan 23.  Jan 24 the entire Hubei Province was locked down.  And all movie theaters in China were closed/

On 20 January, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated that it was "now very clear" that human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus had occurred, given that healthcare workers had been infected

30 January
The WHO director-general declares the coronavirus outbreak a "Public Health Emergency of International Concern" (PHEIC). WHO also issued a warning that "all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread" of the virus.

[bodiddley]

Problems for Trump:
- it's hard to proclaim Biden some socialist anarchist lefty when he 's been a moderate for half a century and through 8 years of the O Admin
- it's hard to convince folks that Biden will wreck the economy and lead to widescale chaoi=s, after Biden was just Veep for 8 years and things went pretty smoothly.  (not to mention the last two wreckings of the economy came under GOP watch).

Seems like Trump was prepared to run against Bernie.
And we know that Trump tried hard to avoid a matchup with Biden (which led to Trump's impeachment).

[josh]

So Gov. Brown of Oregon revealed yesterday that she still hasn't talked to the White House about the fires because they haven't yet returned his call. 



lol

"People in Oregon are dying from the fire and the Trump administration won't answer the governor's phone call?! Hahahahahaha!"
~Kid Carter

[barton]

It is quite dire in Oregon.   It was my home for six years.   More current info....

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/11/live-updates-oregon-northwest-wildfires/

   Late Thursday, President Donald Trump declared a federal emergency for Oregon, something Gov. Kate Brown and all seven members of the state’s congressional delegation had requested. The declaration will make it easier for federal agencies to coordinate with state and local officials and for Oregon to receive federal money to aid in recovery.

Once the emergency declaration is signed, Oregon officials will need to compile a report on the devastation caused by this week’s fires in pursuit of a major disaster declaration.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley said that second designation will bring “significant financial assistance,” and he believes Oregon should easily qualify. 

[bodiddley]

Some interesting items on the wiki Coronavirus Timeline:

Jan 30, Singapore announced that every household was to receive four masks starting from 1 February.

The US State Department issued an updated travel advisory as "Level 4: Do Not Travel to China." Its website stated that "Those currently in China should consider departing" and warning that "Travelers should be prepared for travel restrictions to be put into effect with little or no advance notice". Additionally, it authorised American diplomatic staff and their families to evacuate China.

I can understand, but it doesn't seem wise to tell Americans in a epidemic hotspot to come back to the USA.

Jan 31
Italy declared a state of emergency, the first EU country to do so, and allocates an initial 5 million Euros to tackle the virus.

5 February
China, in Wuhan now reported 10,117 cases in total

[kiidcarter8]

Real Clear Politics conveniently erased Rasmussen from their final chart

Not just their final chart, Kid. There is nothing Rasmussen after July!

That is very curious.

As I said, Rasmussen stopped polling it as a two person race.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_nov7

Do you think this contradicts what I posted?

It's an addendum to the RCP chart

Dont be so sensitive.