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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Kam]

Leave it the way it is.  If you don't want to vote you don't have to vote.

Make it easier to vote... all states should send out mail-in ballots every election.

[Kam]

https://youtu.be/thOifuHs6eY

This is so cool.   Distract yourself with the story of hexagons,  for nine whole minutes.

Very interesting.  I'll pay more attention to bathroom tile from now on.

[barton]

What's taking NEVADA sooooo long?

Nevada had a huge proportion of mail ballots that arrived on election day, and are still  arriving with Nov. 3 postmarks.   Especially Clark County.   With the margin so narrow,  they can't call it when they're uncertain of how many more envelopes there will be to open.   

[REDSTATEWARD]

Canceling someone's driver's license over a $50 fine is draconian.
and likely counterproductive -- a hindrance to gainful employment and having an extra $50.

I wouldn't go that far.  Don't need to suck people into the maw of bureaucracy just to get them to vote.  And you should have the right to vote for whoever you want or to vote stupidly or protest vote.

Really I prefer making it as easy and convenient as possible for everyone to vote.
But making it mandatory has some appeal.
The Gov't doesn't require you to do much except pay taxes and follow a million laws.  People should be engaged in choosing their gov't.

I would resist making "should" into "must. "  Agree on making it easy,  but I would prefer that someone who is really uninformed can choose to abstain from voting as guesswork.   Also,  not voting can be a legitimate form of free speech,  even if I may not personally like the "they all suck! " message.   Better to find positive ways to engage young people in the political process and form lifetime habits.

Nowhere in the world is it easier to vote than in the USA.
This election proved that.
Not to mention also this election proved the wisdom of the Electoral College.

[josh]

Canceling someone's driver's license over a $50 fine is draconian.
and likely counterproductive -- a hindrance to gainful employment and having an extra $50.

I wouldn't go that far.  Don't need to suck people into the maw of bureaucracy just to get them to vote.  And you should have the right to vote for whoever you want or to vote stupidly or protest vote.

Really I prefer making it as easy and convenient as possible for everyone to vote.
But making it mandatory has some appeal.
The Gov't doesn't require you to do much except pay taxes and follow a million laws.  People should be engaged in choosing their gov't.

I would resist making "should" into "must. "  Agree on making it easy,  but I would prefer that someone who is really uninformed can choose to abstain from voting as guesswork.   Also,  not voting can be a legitimate form of free speech,  even if I may not personally like the "they all suck! " message.   Better to find positive ways to engage young people in the political process and form lifetime habits.

Nowhere in the world is it easier to vote than in the USA.
This election proved that.
Not to mention also this election proved the wisdom of the Electoral College.

Neither of those points was proven by this election, Ward.

[bambu.]

You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.
Fairly simple questions, with yes or no answers.
When mrs bambu was once a scrutineer she caught one person counting the votes "dealing from the bottom of the deck"...counting votes one by one properly, then taking more than one in her hand, only checking the top one, but putting the multiple ones she had in her hand on the one pile without checking them. The pile of her prefered candidate it was suspected.
Trump, elected President by the People in 2016 is alleging doubt.
He and his camp are entitled to answers as to exactly what's happening.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

[bambu.]

If I were a reporter in America, they'd be the questions I'd be asking of the Federal Electoral Office.
If everything is sweet, they should be able to guarantee the integrity of the election and postal votes, and explain why.

[bambu.]

What's taking NEVADA sooooo long?

Nevada had a huge proportion of mail ballots that arrived on election day, and are still  arriving with Nov. 3 postmarks.   Especially Clark County.   With the margin so narrow,  they can't call it when they're uncertain of how many more envelopes there will be to open.

US law says the postal votes can arrive up to and on 6 Nov and will be legal and counted?
...as long as they're postmarked before election day.

[barton]

Some states,  due to slow mail, allow several days for ballots POSTMARKED ELECTION DAY to arrive.   The postmark is evidence they voted on or before election day.   This is pretty simple to figure out.   

[josh]

You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.

No, Bambi. They are raised by the president not out of conviction, but out of a desire to seed doubt.

There is no substance to these - it is like "have you stopped beating your wife, yet?" There is no integrity to them and the answer was known before the question was asked, except by gullible people like you - people who won't accept the answer, even after it is given.

There is no basis for the doubt, Bambi. And no way to disprove the allegations because there is nothing specific enough to point to to say "See?!"

[barton]

Canceling someone's driver's license over a $50 fine is draconian.
and likely counterproductive -- a hindrance to gainful employment and having an extra $50.

I wouldn't go that far.  Don't need to suck people into the maw of bureaucracy just to get them to vote.  And you should have the right to vote for whoever you want or to vote stupidly or protest vote.

Really I prefer making it as easy and convenient as possible for everyone to vote.
But making it mandatory has some appeal.
The Gov't doesn't require you to do much except pay taxes and follow a million laws.  People should be engaged in choosing their gov't.

I would resist making "should" into "must. "  Agree on making it easy,  but I would prefer that someone who is really uninformed can choose to abstain from voting as guesswork.   Also,  not voting can be a legitimate form of free speech,  even if I may not personally like the "they all suck! " message.   Better to find positive ways to engage young people in the political process and form lifetime habits.

Nowhere in the world is it easier to vote than in the USA.

False.
This election proved that.
No it did not.
Not to mention also this election proved the wisdom of the Electoral College.
False. (for the reasons provided in hundreds of posts here,  going back 20 years

Google "brazil voting system" or similar.

[josh]

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

And continue to put party over country. Good point, Ward.

[josh]

If I were a reporter in America, they'd be the questions I'd be asking of the Federal Electoral Office.
If everything is sweet, they should be able to guarantee the integrity of the election and postal votes, and explain why.

The "Federal Electoral Office" doesn't exist. The closest thing to it we have doesn't have that power. And even if it did, it needs a quorum to make any decisions and to avoid the risk of penalties from it, Trump has refused to nominate anybody for the 3 vacant seats.

But... the questions have been asked in state after state, suits filed over some of it, and mostly greeted with disdain by both the local GOP officials and the judges.

[josh]

What's taking NEVADA sooooo long?

Nevada had a huge proportion of mail ballots that arrived on election day, and are still  arriving with Nov. 3 postmarks.   Especially Clark County.   With the margin so narrow,  they can't call it when they're uncertain of how many more envelopes there will be to open.

US law says the postal votes can arrive up to and on 6 Nov and will be legal and counted?
...as long as they're postmarked before election day.

Different states, different laws.