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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/us/randolph-county-georgia-voting.html


The "independent" consultant was reccommended to the county by office of the Georgia Sec of State.

Btw, the Georgia Sec of State, Republican Brian Kemp, is running for governor against an African-american woman, Stacey Abrams.

“I think it was an effort to suppress the vote,” Bobby Jenkins, 66, a retired Randolph County school superintendent, said after a meeting on Wednesday where local residents complained that African-Americans in poor rural areas would be left having to drive long distances to vote. “This is one typical strategy in the Republican playbook.

Some black Georgia residents say they are primed to be skeptical of Republican motives, given the repeated efforts by Republican officials to limit voting access in the name of efficiency or fraud prevention.

Republican state lawmakers introduced a bill earlier this year to curtail early voting on Sundays, when many black Christian congregations conduct “Souls to the Polls” voting drives. The legislation died after being opposed by the Rev. Raphael Warnock, senior pastor at the Atlanta church where Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once preached.

Nothing to worry about, as these efforts to supress A-A voting was supressed.

[kiidcarter8]

Voting is so easy in Georgia the Repubs wanted to close 9 polling places that all were in predominantly African-American areas.  Closing those polling places would have put an undue disadvantage to many people who had no cars and were 30 miles from the proposed alternative polling place.
When a little sunshine was shone on that shenanigan by civil rights groups other voter rights advocates, the proposal was rejected. 

Thats the power that Red craves, to cheat "some" people out of their right to vote.

Red is just red, not red, white and blue.

WTF, bank? We've been told "there is no reality of voter suppression."  Those polling places had to be closed to prevent voter fraud.

Seemingly it was an economic move (to have less stations open)

And not unlike what was going on in much of the nation.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Trump makes no comment today on McCain, given three opportunities to do so. White House flying flag at full mast.

Draft dodger continues his campaign of abject and active disrespect for a real American hero.

Red and Other GOPers here say nothing.

Sad.

Voters will remember.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Among other problems!!!

It is not hard to read up on the news.
The consultant was hired to advise a democrat-run board of elections in a democrat heavy county.
Closing black precincts in a heavily black county in the waning months of a statewide election where a black woman is running for a big office would be a stupid proposal for a republican to make.
That’s why none did.

[Yankguy1]

"Independent consultant!!!!"

[REDSTATEWARD]

"Independent consultant!!!!"

Correct. Are you suggesting the democrat Chairman of the Board Elections would hire a GOP consultant?

[Hamilton Samuels]

democrat Chairman of the Board Election...

No such title exists.

Lying tool.

[Yankguy1]

"Independent consultant!!!!"

Correct. Are you suggesting the democrat Chairman of the Board Elections would hire a GOP consultant?

democrat party!!!!

[REDSTATEWARD]

"Independent consultant!!!!"

Correct. Are you suggesting the democrat Chairman of the Board Elections would hire a GOP consultant?

democrat party!!!!

Didn’t think so.

[Yankguy1]

You should probably read the article that Bankshot posted.  You'll be the BENEFICIARY of the information he provided.  But do what you want.  I know Voter ID laws are your hobby horse.  We all are BENEFICIARIES of such laws as they're designed to protect all of us from the two to three cases of voter fraud that occur every election cycle.   No other reason.   

[josh]

My feeling is that if someone makes a discernible argument, I will try to test it out.  Kid seemed to be saying, essentially, "Voting is an important civic duty and we should all leap whatever hurdles are presented to do that duty."  If you separate that statement from the reality of voter suppression, and the previous hurdles I mentioned, you can appear to be doing some handsome Virtue Signalling.  But appeals to civic duty and personal responsibility are rather suspect when they come from those who are privileged by a system that makes it easy for them to do said duty, and harder for minorities. 

There is no reality of voter suppression.

There is no reality of your posts, Red.

Voter suppression has been shown repeatedly and the courts have seen it and ruled on it.

Tactics vary, like putting out flyers with bogus information for Hispanic voters or ID processes that make it harder for some groups than others. The efforts to stop college voters unless they can prove "permanent" residency. The attempts to shut down polling places. Insufficient polling places in urban areas, creating excessively long waits - waits in the hours to vote.

But you say, "no reality of voter suppression."

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/politics/trump-administration-tps-end/index.html

The anti-humanitarian efforts of the Trump administration are spelled out in the suit trying to prevent the Trump administration from claiming folks from certain countries no longer need protection.

Why did the writer make it sound so bad there? "It IS bad there."

Lying, cheating, inhumane bigot of a president - and his feckless supporters here and elsewhere.

In one exchange, the now-director of US Citizenship and Immigration Services, Francis Cissna, remarks that a document recommending that TPS for Sudan be terminated reads like it was going to recommend the opposite until someone was "clubbed ... over the head."

"The memo reads like one person who strongly supports extending TPS for Sudan wrote everything up to the recommendation section and then someone who opposes extension snuck up behind the first guy, clubbed him over the head, pushed his senseless body of out of the way, and finished the memo. Am I missing something?" he wrote to key DHS staffers. Another high-ranking official then asks for the memo to be "revised."

n a similar exchange, policy adviser Kathy Nuebel Kovarik asks her staff to address what she perceives as inconsistencies in the justification documents for ending TPS for El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua.

"The problem is that it reads as though we'd recommend an extension b/c we talk so much about how bad it is, but there's not enough in there about positive steps that have been taken since its designation," she wrote.
Staffer Brandon Prelogar responded that "it IS bad there."

"We can comb through the country conditions to try to see what else there might be, but the basic problem is that it IS bad there (with regards to) all of the standard metrics," Prelogar wrote. "Our strongest argument for termination, we thought, is just that it is not bad in a way clearly linked to the initial disasters prompting the designations. We can work with RU to try to get more, and/or comb through the country conditions we have again looking for positive gems, but the conditions are what they are."

[REDSTATEWARD]

My feeling is that if someone makes a discernible argument, I will try to test it out.  Kid seemed to be saying, essentially, "Voting is an important civic duty and we should all leap whatever hurdles are presented to do that duty."  If you separate that statement from the reality of voter suppression, and the previous hurdles I mentioned, you can appear to be doing some handsome Virtue Signalling.  But appeals to civic duty and personal responsibility are rather suspect when they come from those who are privileged by a system that makes it easy for them to do said duty, and harder for minorities. 

There is no reality of voter suppression.

There is no reality of your posts, Red.

Voter suppression has been shown repeatedly and the courts have seen it and ruled on it.

Tactics vary, like putting out flyers with bogus information for Hispanic voters or ID processes that make it harder for some groups than others. The efforts to stop college voters unless they can prove "permanent" residency. The attempts to shut down polling places. Insufficient polling places in urban areas, creating excessively long waits - waits in the hours to vote.

But you say, "no reality of voter suppression."
[/quote]
Not only NO, but Hell No!.

[Yankguy1]

Red's gonna tough this one out. 

[REDSTATEWARD]

You should probably read the article that Bankshot posted.  You'll be the BENEFICIARY of the information he provided.  But do what you want.  I know Voter ID laws are your hobby horse.  We all are BENEFICIARIES of such laws as they're designed to protect all of us from the two to three cases of voter fraud that occur every election cycle.   No other reason.

Talk to the voters in the 30+ states that enacted Voter ID Laws then, and those polled who endorse the laws including a majority of minorities. In reality the voters themselves highly favor ID’s to vote and do so by wide margins in all sections of the country.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/194741/four-five-americans-support-voter-laws-early-voting.aspx