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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Yankguy1]

Fair enough.  But the numbers do not support the Murdoch-owned websites editorial conclusions.

Who is better for Americans to elect than Trump?

Bill Weld.

Anybody the Dems nominate or might nominate.

Gary Johnson.

Even Jill Stein. (shudder)

And Democrat Johnny Hickenlooper...he could well be President, and carry out his promise to nuke Australia.

DENVER—Kicking off his campaign with a promise to order the U.S. military to wipe the sovereign nation off the face of the Earth, presidential candidate John Hickenlooper announced Tuesday his support for using nuclear weapons against Australia just to see if anyone was listening to him. “That’s right—did you hear that? If elected president, I will use our massive thermonuclear arsenal to unrelentingly bombard Australia until it is reduced to a smoking crater,” the former Colorado governor said.

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He said it, he now owns it, and lives by his words.

Exactly why the US President has too much power.
His/Her power to nuke/attack other countries should be removed and given only to Congress.

You are such a fool.

That's from The Onion, which is a satire site. He didn't say it.

There will be people who'll believe he said it.
If I were him I'd sue.

Translation:  There are other people as dumb as I am. 

[bambu-wisdom]

Hickenlooper never said that. Are you really that much of a nitwit?

Obviously.
There are plenty around like me.
If I were him I'd sue.

[Yankguy1]

Thank God you're not him. 

[josh]

Hickenlooper never said that. Are you really that much of a nitwit?

Obviously.
There are plenty around like me.
If I were him I'd sue.

(a) There are plenty around like you. Almost all of them support Trump.

(b) Yes, I believe you would sue. You'd probably spend a ton of money on it.

You would lose. You would lose every time in every court in America. This is a form of protected speech - and given that it is explicitly labeled as satire, the only reason there are people like you out there is because either you cannot read or you will not read and you do not check your assumptions or your sources.

This is why I labeled you a fool, Bambi. The information was there for you to read and you chose not to.

[bambu-wisdom]

Thank God you're not him. 

The only way you stop them is to sue.
Call in your lawyers and sue.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/mark-geyer-declares-war-on-facebook-trolls-targeting-his-family/news-story/57bbdd4e8a66632ba6f24718aefd65d8

Mark Geyer declares war on Facebook trolls targeting his family

Dean Ritchie and Nick Hansen, The Daily Telegraph
March 6, 2019 2:28pm
Subscriber only


The Facebook page that wrongly linked rugby league great Mark Geyer’s daughter to the Penrith Panthers’ sex tape scandal has vanished from the social media site following threats of legal action.

Geyer vowed to launch legal action against the people behind the NRL Memes Facebook page to clear the tarnished name of his daughter Montanna after incorrect claims she was the woman involved in a sex tape with Panthers player Tyrone May.

In what could be a landmark case a furious Geyer, known as a firebrand during his career, is now gunning for online trolls and the Facebook group with 300,000 followers.

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https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/geyer-to-sue-over-social-media-scandal/0157d5ce-934b-4980-bf14-7d4f81ab89cf

"I have today engaged Brydens Lawyers to act on behalf of my daughter ... for the purpose of taking action against those who have published false and defamatory material which has caused incredible distress for my family," Geyer said.

"On the advice of the solicitors, I do not propose to make any further comment."

On Wednesday afternoon it appeared the page disappeared but it is unclear whether it has only been suspended or deleted entirely.

[bambu-wisdom]

Hickenlooper never said that. Are you really that much of a nitwit?

Obviously.
There are plenty around like me.
If I were him I'd sue.

(a) There are plenty around like you. Almost all of them support Trump.

(b) Yes, I believe you would sue. You'd probably spend a ton of money on it.

You would lose. You would lose every time in every court in America. This is a form of protected speech - and given that it is explicitly labeled as satire, the only reason there are people like you out there is because either you cannot read or you will not read and you do not check your assumptions or your sources.

This is why I labeled you a fool, Bambi. The information was there for you to read and you chose not to.

You say.
I say otherwise.

I believe good lawyers could argue successfully that "a reasonable person could think it was true".
If I were him I'd still sue.

[bambu-wisdom]

https://politics.theonion.com/john-hickenlooper-announces-support-for-nuking-australi-1833071439

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Where does it say anywhere there that the article is satire?


Reached for comment, Hickenlooper stated that if his current strategy failed to boost his name recognition in the polls, he would also be willing to endorse government-mandated Bible burnings and legalized pedophilia.

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If I were him I'd sue them.

[Yankguy1]

JUST. STOP.   

[REDSTATEWARD]

I find ANY predictive polling about Trump to  be hysterical given the number of the previous ones that
were almost all wrong.

What is intriguing is what happens if RUSSIA! turns out to be a bust and the dems keep investigating all things TRUMP while the economy continues to grow.

[Yankguy1]

I agree with Red.  Polling at this point is irrelevant and predictions at this point by anybody, from whatever bent, are informed by wishful thinking. 

[whiskeypriest]

https://politics.theonion.com/john-hickenlooper-announces-support-for-nuking-australi-1833071439

Sounds like a sound policy to me.

No surprise.  lol

He probably knows nothing about Australia, where it is, what it is, who we are.
Very few Americans interviewed in the street do.

Ask all your friends, bet most of them don't know either.

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Exactly why Australia must get nukes, now.
Never know who might be a future US President.

Exactly why it was absolute folly for Australia not to get nukes 60 years ago.
And absolute folly for Australia to go around signing nuclear non-proliferation treaties.

Exactly why you DON'T get nukes.

Ask all your friends anyway, bet most of them don't know.

I did. To a man, all said No Nukes For You.  Sample reasons:

- Need to be able to wipe those turds off the map at a whim.
- That Opera House looks stupid.
- Hugh Jackman. Enough said.
- Settled by criminals, gone downhill from there.
- Full of Nasis and Lederhosen (may be confused with Austria)
- Upside down. All the blood rushed to their heads.
- Couldn't take Gallipolis.
- I hated The Thornbirds.
- Didgeridoo sounds like someone's Didger shit.

[bambu-wisdom]

https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2010/06/australian-inventions-that-changed-the-world/

20 Australian inventions that changed the world

1. Black box flight recorder
2. Spray on skin
3. Electronic pacemaker
4. Google Maps
5. Medical application of penicillin
6. Polymer bank notes
7. Cochlear implant [bionic ear]
8. Electric drill
9. Winged keel
10. Permaculture
11. Wi-Fi technology
12. Ultrasound scanner
13. Plastic spectacle lenses
14. Inflatable escape slide and raft
15. Permanent-crease clothing
16. Gardasil and Cervarix cancer vaccines
17. Frazier lens
18. Triton WorkCentre
19. Racecam
20. Tank-bred tuna system.

All detailed in the link.

[josh]

Hickenlooper never said that. Are you really that much of a nitwit?

Obviously.
There are plenty around like me.
If I were him I'd sue.

(a) There are plenty around like you. Almost all of them support Trump.

(b) Yes, I believe you would sue. You'd probably spend a ton of money on it.

You would lose. You would lose every time in every court in America. This is a form of protected speech - and given that it is explicitly labeled as satire, the only reason there are people like you out there is because either you cannot read or you will not read and you do not check your assumptions or your sources.

This is why I labeled you a fool, Bambi. The information was there for you to read and you chose not to.

You say.
I say otherwise.

I believe good lawyers could argue successfully that "a reasonable person could think it was true".
If I were him I'd still sue.

You're a fool.

"John Hickenlooper Announces Support For Nuking Australia Just To See If Anyone Paying Attention" - no, no reasonable person would think that was true and even if they did the headline and content would convince any reasonable person who thought the headline real that the article was not.

As for suing, Michael Cohen already threatened to sue The Onion over an article they ran about Trump:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/388740-cohen-threatened-the-onion-in-2013-over-satirical-trump-article

Some other Onion headlines visible on the Hickenlooper article page:
"Embarrassed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Can Only Afford American Flag Pin With 19 Stars"
"Fox News Debuts Premium Channel For 24-Hour Coverage Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez"
"Trump Administration Denies President Was Behind Jared Kushner’s Promotion To 4-Star General"
"Jared Kushner Assures Reporters He Never Revealed State Secrets Without Turning Huge Profit"
"Kushner Assures Worried Ivanka They’d Definitely Be Last Jews To Go"
"Offended Mark Meadows Reminds Colleagues He Never Once Complained About Capitol’s Integrated Drinking Fountains"
"House Votes Against Trump’s National Emergency On Grounds That Only Congress Allowed To Misappropriate Funds"

No reasonable man.

But then again, you have no basis for judgment about what a reasonable man would think.

Good luck finding a case in which a satirist was found guilty in an American court for their piece about a major public figure. Unlike one of our SCOTUS justices' preference, a public figure has a higher standard to meet with regard to libel or defamation, even before you toss in satire's relative protection.

I suggest you never read either The Onion or the Borowitz Report again, given that you cannot tell the difference. (Your desire to quash such things aligns with lots of other dictatorial types, like the Saudi government.)

[facilitatorn]

I find ANY predictive polling about Trump to  be hysterical given the number of the previous ones that
were almost all wrong.

What is intriguing is what happens if RUSSIA! turns out to be a bust and the dems keep investigating all things TRUMP while the economy continues to grow.

Red has outlined two conditions where trump emphatically loses a reelection campaign and republicans lose 7-8 seats in the senate and further shrink their share of congress:

1) GOP-Russia turns out to be anything other than a bust. It already has.

2) Any kind of economic speed bump or downturn. Successful teacher strikes and voter mandated minimum wage hikes are propping him up at this point, but how long will it last?

[FlyingVProd]

Bambu,

The USA, and others, are working hard to make nukes worthless. For many years now we have been working on stopping missiles, and we need to be able to blow up a nuclear missile before it even leaves the ground. 

We also have new technology which allows us to detect nuclear weapons, so that we can detect and stop nuclear weapons.

We need to be able to completely stop nuclear weapons.

Australia needs to invest in detecting and stopping nuclear weapons, along with the rest of us, we need to make nuclear weapons useless.

And the main threat of Australia is Indonesia. Australia needs to have the equipment to quickly stop Indonesia. So, Australia needs to buy all of the best fighter planes and bombers and helicopters, and Australia needs all of the best satellites, and communications. And Australia needs to train lots of special forces soldiers, etc. 

Of note as well, is that with modern communications and intelligence, we can stop wars before they start. And we can surgically remove evil leaders, etc. We can save lives by stopping wars before they happen.

People can also advance human rights in the world, and that will make the world more peaceful.

We need to stop nuclear weapons, and we need a more peaceful and just world with better human rights.

Salute,

Tony V.