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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14685 on: June 04, 2019, 09:21:33 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/botched-family-reunifications-left-migrant-children-waiting-vans-overnight-n1013336

As has been pointed out by others, had a parent done this to their child they would be in jail.

Planning was quite bad - but sounds like they did as well as possible - and happy reunions in the end.

Headlines would have you believe kids were in a hot van for 37 hours and had no happy ending.

They were in the van because the vans were air conditioned. They were in air conditioned vans because there was no where for them to go for damn near two days. Because the responsible agencies created huge problems for them selves.

You’re defending a huge clusterfuck that happened because the administration banked on no one noticing there was no plan.

Big picture, dude.

This Administration CREATED the “crisis” at the border. Immigration systems sucked before but damn! Don’t “what about Obama” this shit, either.

The cruelty is the point. They’re trying to see just how much evil shit good people will take.


Dehumanizing people is how it starts... and you’re down with it.

You remain uninformed - intentionally

The kids were IN the facility and LEFT because it was too cold inside.  Slept on the vans because - fuck - they are young and were getting tired.

Most were reunited much sooner than the reports would have you believe.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14686 on: June 04, 2019, 09:22:02 PM »

Led by the fucking nose

Too damn funny.
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« Reply #14687 on: June 04, 2019, 09:59:35 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/botched-family-reunifications-left-migrant-children-waiting-vans-overnight-n1013336

As has been pointed out by others, had a parent done this to their child they would be in jail.

Planning was quite bad - but sounds like they did as well as possible - and happy reunions in the end.

Headlines would have you believe kids were in a hot van for 37 hours and had no happy ending.

They were in the van because the vans were air conditioned. They were in air conditioned vans because there was no where for them to go for damn near two days. Because the responsible agencies created huge problems for them selves.

You’re defending a huge clusterfuck that happened because the administration banked on no one noticing there was no plan.

Big picture, dude.

This Administration CREATED the “crisis” at the border. Immigration systems sucked before but damn! Don’t “what about Obama” this shit, either.

The cruelty is the point. They’re trying to see just how much evil shit good people will take.


Dehumanizing people is how it starts... and you’re down with it.

You remain uninformed - intentionally

The kids were IN the facility and LEFT because it was too cold inside.  Slept on the vans because - fuck - they are young and were getting tired.

Most were reunited much sooner than the reports would have you believe.

You keep missing the point.

There was no planning for the reunification of the families. Ever spend time in foster care? Can you imagine the trauma we, as a nation, have inflicted on these children?

Nah, they ain’t white so you don’t care,

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14688 on: June 04, 2019, 10:35:13 PM »

There was a plan.  ICE officials screwed the pooch.   Clearly a fuckup on a lazy human level.  And poorly communicated.  No, not of "how COULD they do this?" proportion.  Kids have gone through emotional hell but were (are) fine.
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« Reply #14689 on: June 04, 2019, 10:39:49 PM »

Obama appointee will not serve time after groping woman.

Thank you for the link.
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« Reply #14690 on: June 04, 2019, 10:40:12 PM »

Meanwhile, Biden can't stop plagiarizing.

Thank you for the link.
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« Reply #14691 on: June 04, 2019, 10:41:04 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/botched-family-reunifications-left-migrant-children-waiting-vans-overnight-n1013336

As has been pointed out by others, had a parent done this to their child they would be in jail.

Planning was quite bad - but sounds like they did as well as possible

Given the bad planning.
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« Reply #14692 on: June 04, 2019, 10:43:39 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Witness your deep discussion of it and the link you posted, how much you care is evident.

So, care to tell us about this workplace tragedy?

Care to discuss the role of firearms in it, if any?

How about whether the shooter was a person of color or not?

Yes, it was a tragedy.  We need to figure out how to alleviate it, without installing Bambi-ignorance at every doorway.

Have any suggestions?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14693 on: June 04, 2019, 10:46:08 PM »

If it was a white guy, suspected supremacist or not - quite a few of you would have posted it here
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« Reply #14694 on: June 04, 2019, 10:46:21 PM »

Speaking of bad planning:
https://www.thenation.com/article/chained-cpi-poverty-score/

Bad plan.

Bad planning.

Intentionally bad planning.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14695 on: June 04, 2019, 10:47:32 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Witness your deep discussion of it and the link you posted, how much you care is evident.

So, care to tell us about this workplace tragedy?

Care to discuss the role of firearms in it, if any?

How about whether the shooter was a person of color or not?

Yes, it was a tragedy.  We need to figure out how to alleviate it, without installing Bambi-ignorance at every doorway.

Have any suggestions?

Airport-style security is the only way you'll stop it.
Guns get into the workplace, anyone can shoot anyone else anytime.
Workplaces, schools, places of worship, anywhere people are sitting ducks.
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« Reply #14696 on: June 04, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »

If it was a white guy, suspected supremacist or not - quite a few of you would have posted it here

So, because it wasn't one (assuming it wasn't, that was why you put off posting about it until you knew it was not?

Gotta score points!

How... terribly unusual.
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« Reply #14697 on: June 04, 2019, 10:48:40 PM »

Speaking of bad planning:
https://www.thenation.com/article/chained-cpi-poverty-score/

Bad plan.

Bad planning.

Intentionally bad planning.

West Wing did this one as well
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« Reply #14698 on: June 04, 2019, 11:02:44 PM »

Mass shooting in Darwin yesterday...man with pump-action shotgun..."tattooed ex-con", 'links to outlaw motorcycle gangs', moved around the streets shooting up motels and shooting people dead in businesses.
4 men dead, one woman wounded.

Wouldn't have had a licence for that gun...only licences for farmers, professional pest eradicators etc.
Suggestions are he maybe got it via his bikie buddies.

Take away the semi-auto weapons in America...good idea...'only' the good people will surrender them, though.

Bet the school shooting deputy wishes he'd never heard of the police force, let alone joined it.
Ice cream vendor in main st ...and his life in retirement would've been just lovely.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14699 on: June 04, 2019, 11:11:21 PM »

If the mosques in NZ had had SWAT-style armed guards outside and inside, and been locked from the inside...all those victims would still be alive.
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