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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14655 on: June 04, 2019, 10:41:04 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/botched-family-reunifications-left-migrant-children-waiting-vans-overnight-n1013336

As has been pointed out by others, had a parent done this to their child they would be in jail.

Planning was quite bad - but sounds like they did as well as possible

Given the bad planning.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14656 on: June 04, 2019, 10:43:39 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Witness your deep discussion of it and the link you posted, how much you care is evident.

So, care to tell us about this workplace tragedy?

Care to discuss the role of firearms in it, if any?

How about whether the shooter was a person of color or not?

Yes, it was a tragedy.  We need to figure out how to alleviate it, without installing Bambi-ignorance at every doorway.

Have any suggestions?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14657 on: June 04, 2019, 10:46:08 PM »

If it was a white guy, suspected supremacist or not - quite a few of you would have posted it here
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14658 on: June 04, 2019, 10:46:21 PM »

Speaking of bad planning:
https://www.thenation.com/article/chained-cpi-poverty-score/

Bad plan.

Bad planning.

Intentionally bad planning.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14659 on: June 04, 2019, 10:47:32 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Witness your deep discussion of it and the link you posted, how much you care is evident.

So, care to tell us about this workplace tragedy?

Care to discuss the role of firearms in it, if any?

How about whether the shooter was a person of color or not?

Yes, it was a tragedy.  We need to figure out how to alleviate it, without installing Bambi-ignorance at every doorway.

Have any suggestions?

Airport-style security is the only way you'll stop it.
Guns get into the workplace, anyone can shoot anyone else anytime.
Workplaces, schools, places of worship, anywhere people are sitting ducks.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14660 on: June 04, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »

If it was a white guy, suspected supremacist or not - quite a few of you would have posted it here

So, because it wasn't one (assuming it wasn't, that was why you put off posting about it until you knew it was not?

Gotta score points!

How... terribly unusual.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14661 on: June 04, 2019, 10:48:40 PM »

Speaking of bad planning:
https://www.thenation.com/article/chained-cpi-poverty-score/

Bad plan.

Bad planning.

Intentionally bad planning.

West Wing did this one as well
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« Reply #14662 on: June 04, 2019, 11:02:44 PM »

Mass shooting in Darwin yesterday...man with pump-action shotgun..."tattooed ex-con", 'links to outlaw motorcycle gangs', moved around the streets shooting up motels and shooting people dead in businesses.
4 men dead, one woman wounded.

Wouldn't have had a licence for that gun...only licences for farmers, professional pest eradicators etc.
Suggestions are he maybe got it via his bikie buddies.

Take away the semi-auto weapons in America...good idea...'only' the good people will surrender them, though.

Bet the school shooting deputy wishes he'd never heard of the police force, let alone joined it.
Ice cream vendor in main st ...and his life in retirement would've been just lovely.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14663 on: June 04, 2019, 11:11:21 PM »

If the mosques in NZ had had SWAT-style armed guards outside and inside, and been locked from the inside...all those victims would still be alive.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14664 on: June 04, 2019, 11:25:12 PM »

All of the people he screwed know exactly where he lives now. Itís going to be a fun summer.

http://www.salon.com/2019/06/04/owner-of-former-trump-hotel-in-panama-claims-trump-organization-evaded-taxes/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14665 on: June 04, 2019, 11:52:19 PM »

If it was a white guy, suspected supremacist or not - quite a few of you would have posted it here

So, because it wasn't one (assuming it wasn't, that was why you put off posting about it until you knew it was not?

Gotta score points!

How... terribly unusual.

Still waiting, Kiiid.

Anything to say about the situation other than "he wasn't white and you people didn't talk about it?"
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« Reply #14666 on: June 05, 2019, 12:00:01 AM »

Thatís all you posted.

In that post. But since you are struggling, here is Article 2, Section 1, on the subject of Electors:
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Back to waiting for you to find a passage that says what you claim the Constitution says.

But still not holding my breath.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14667 on: June 05, 2019, 01:20:08 AM »

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/04/trump-says-he-turned-down-corbyn-request-to-meet

Trump should have stuck to his guns and not backed down like the coward he is.

If you can get England to give us an NHS, you will be rewarded mightily by our press.
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« Reply #14668 on: June 05, 2019, 02:24:29 AM »

Thatís all you posted.

In that post. But since you are struggling, here is Article 2, Section 1, on the subject of Electors:
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Back to waiting for you to find a passage that says what you claim the Constitution says.

You already did.
Thanks.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14669 on: June 05, 2019, 03:31:54 AM »

Thatís all you posted.

In that post. But since you are struggling, here is Article 2, Section 1, on the subject of Electors:
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Back to waiting for you to find a passage that says what you claim the Constitution says.

You already did.
Thanks.

Nope. Nothing there, weasel breath.

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress" says nothing about how any determination for the Electors' voting.

Nor does anything in the 12th Amendment, or you would not have bitched and moaned about my not putting them in the same post.

You got bupkis.
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