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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14715 on: June 05, 2019, 09:54:33 PM »



"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress" says nothing about how any determination for the Electors' voting.

Nor does anything in the 12th Amendment, or you would not have bitched and moaned about my not putting them in the same post.

You got bupkis.

No I have the Constitution.  The appointment of electors is a delegated right granted to the states by the Constitution and while that right can be amended( i.e.12th ) it cannot be amended without Congressional approval NOR  in any manner that changes the overall purpose of the presidential election system.  And that system is an indirect election carried out through the Electoral College.
What the Nevada Legislature was trying to do a was convert Nevada ELECTORS into agents of other states.
Blatantly unconstitutional.
You keep saying that, but the states that set up winner-take all *did* change things without a constitutional amendment.
No. They didn’t. Article II gives the the right to elect electors anyway the states choose.
Nevada proposed doing away with electors effectively scrapping the Electoral College.


Nevada proposed no such thing.
LOL  That was the sole purpose of the Nevada Law. It took a Governor with common sense to deep-six such  a stupid (not to mention blatantly unconstitutional) idea.

It might or might not be the "purpose" of the law, but it is not what the law does, Ward. In your ongoing legal studies, you need to discover that words have meaning and that unless a proposed law says that it will do away with Electors, it will not do away with Electors.

Consider your head patted. You may catch on before society is destroyed, but I wouldn't be on it, even if society is not destroyed.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14716 on: June 05, 2019, 10:03:23 PM »

Shifting from one liar (Ward) to another (Trump):

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/05/donald-trump-properties-false-royals-claims-kfile-sot-vpx.cnn

No wonder the Queen was wearing the brooch that Obama gave her when she met Trump. She has to be beside herself over the need to spend time behaving diplomatically to this guy who has used her family's name for his personal financial gain.
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« Reply #14717 on: June 05, 2019, 10:03:53 PM »

The science...there is climate change.
True.
The climate is always changing, Ice Ages come and go, glaciers started melting 15,000 years ago.
Long ago sea levels rose, and flooded the land bridge between Australia and India.

Sydney's dam is down to 50% capacity...water restrictions have been introduced.

No1 radio host has been telling the politicians for decades to build more dams....did they listen?   no.
Wouldn't surprise me if this time Sydney does run out of water.

Building more dams would not have alleviated this problem, but... why bother talking to somebody who thinks this rising heat is like the others and has decided that if the seas are going to rise we should just let everybody die and our world to fall apart.

Given that you see nothing wrong with the US government killing kids, I guess I should not be surprised.

If it is, the US govt should not be killing kids.
If the seas rise, then everybody should be moved to higher ground.
The world is falling apart now...overpopulation.

Building more dams would have alleviated the problem in Sydney...it always rains eventually.
Plenty of rain, dim-witted politicians never harvest any of it [besides in the existing dams]... had 3 inches of rain this week...bye bye, all went to the sea.
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« Reply #14718 on: June 05, 2019, 10:05:55 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/los-angeles-homeless-count/index.html

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But the homelessness crisis gripping Los Angeles is one that has been many years in the making with no easy fix. It is a problem driven by an array of complex factors, including rising rents, a staggering shortage of affordable housing units, resistance to new shelters and housing developments in suburban neighborhoods, and, above all, the lack of a cohesive safety net for thousands of people struggling with mental health problems, addiction and, in some cases, recent exits from the criminal justice system that have left them with no other options beyond living on the streets.
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« Reply #14719 on: June 05, 2019, 10:11:47 PM »

Shifting from one liar (Ward) to another (Trump):

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/05/donald-trump-properties-false-royals-claims-kfile-sot-vpx.cnn

No wonder the Queen was wearing the brooch that Obama gave her when she met Trump. She has to be beside herself over the need to spend time behaving diplomatically to this guy who has used her family's name for his personal financial gain.

She'd be used to it by now.
She had to meet with IRA 'boss' when travelling to Ireland to lend them money in recent times.
Had to host Mugabe for a visit.
Hosted Japan's emperor a while ago...toured around in a carriage with him.
Bad idea...veterans/etc turned their backs as the carriage passed by.

She might be Queen...but she needs to remember who the 'king of the world' is when dealing with Mr Trump.

Mr Trump, democratically elected by the American people to be 'king of the world'.
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« Reply #14720 on: June 05, 2019, 10:20:30 PM »

Methinks that some Britons, no ideas, are protesting Trump the man, rather than any dislike of America/ns.
Still, they should be treating the office of the President of the United States of America, and the person who holds that office...with a lot more respect.

Pity Trump will not be touring Australia...he would likely get a different perspective if he actually visited here.

Love the Trump robot.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #14721 on: June 05, 2019, 10:30:05 PM »



"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress" says nothing about how any determination for the Electors' voting.

Nor does anything in the 12th Amendment, or you would not have bitched and moaned about my not putting them in the same post.

You got bupkis.

No I have the Constitution.  The appointment of electors is a delegated right granted to the states by the Constitution and while that right can be amended( i.e.12th ) it cannot be amended without Congressional approval NOR  in any manner that changes the overall purpose of the presidential election system.  And that system is an indirect election carried out through the Electoral College.
What the Nevada Legislature was trying to do a was convert Nevada ELECTORS into agents of other states.
Blatantly unconstitutional.
You keep saying that, but the states that set up winner-take all *did* change things without a constitutional amendment.
No. They didn’t. Article II gives the the right to elect electors anyway the states choose.
Nevada proposed doing away with electors effectively scrapping the Electoral College.


Nevada proposed no such thing.
LOL  That was the sole purpose of the Nevada Law. It took a Governor with common sense to deep-six such  a stupid (not to mention blatantly unconstitutional) idea.

It might or might not be the "purpose" of the law,
but it is not what the law does, Ward.
It was the ONLY purpose of the perverted law.
But I can see why you are upset.  It took a democrat with common sense to blow the whistle on
Blatant stupidity.
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« Reply #14722 on: June 05, 2019, 10:30:47 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/biden-2020-campaign-challenge/index.html

Kiiid talked a tiny bit about this, but provided no link, so here is a link and a bit of info:

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Consider the hits Biden has taken in just the last day:
* His campaign acknowledged lifting language from other people and institutions in crafting his climate change proposal, which was released Tuesday. And The Washington Post reported Tuesday night that some language in Biden's education plan had been taken from other sources without attribution. No big deal in this internet age? Maybe. But remember that Biden's first run for president in 1987 was ended by plagiarism allegations.

* Biden's campaign was forced to clarify that the former vice president still supports the so-called "Hyde Amendment" that keeps federal dollars from being spent on abortion services except in the cases of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is at stake. A video released by the American Civil Liberties Union showed Biden seeming to express support for getting rid of the amendment in a May interview. Biden's reiteration of his support for the Hyde Amendment led to a series of blisteringly critical statements from the abortion rights community. "To support the Hyde Amendment is to block people -- particularly women of color and women with low incomes -- from accessing safe, legal abortion," said Kelley Robinson, executive director of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund.
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« Reply #14724 on: June 05, 2019, 11:14:13 PM »

Trump is optimistic.

Not that there is a basis for it, but he is.

Doesn't that just fill you with confidence?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/politics/trump-north-korea-losing-patience/index.html
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« Reply #14725 on: June 05, 2019, 11:34:00 PM »

Another day, another lawsuit against the Trump administration:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-epa-lawsuit/us-epa-is-sued-for-ousting-scientists-from-advisory-committees-idUSKCN1T42H8

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The NRDC said the Oct. 31, 2017 directive from Wheeler’s predecessor Scott Pruitt upended decades of EPA practices “for no good reason” and without required public comment.

It said the agency has since used the directive to remove qualified scientists from its roughly 23 advisory committees, freeing it to replace them with industry representatives.

Monday’s complaint seeks to set aside the directive and all decisions based on it.
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« Reply #14726 on: June 05, 2019, 11:50:49 PM »

Methinks that some Britons, no ideas, are protesting Trump the man, rather than any dislike of America/ns.
Still, they should be treating the office of the President of the United States of America, and the person who holds that office...with a lot more respect.

Pity Trump will not be touring Australia...he would likely get a different perspective if he actually visited here.

Love the Trump robot.

Thanks! We at the Shinbone Star are real proud of that!
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« Reply #14727 on: June 06, 2019, 12:14:10 AM »

Shifting from one liar (Ward) to another (Trump):

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/05/donald-trump-properties-false-royals-claims-kfile-sot-vpx.cnn

No wonder the Queen was wearing the brooch that Obama gave her when she met Trump. She has to be beside herself over the need to spend time behaving diplomatically to this guy who has used her family's name for his personal financial gain.

She'd be used to it by now.
She had to meet with IRA 'boss' when travelling to Ireland to lend them money in recent times.
Had to host Mugabe for a visit.
Hosted Japan's emperor a while ago...toured around in a carriage with him.
Bad idea...veterans/etc turned their backs as the carriage passed by.

She might be Queen...but she needs to remember who the 'king of the world' is when dealing with Mr Trump.

Mr Trump, democratically elected by the American people to be 'king of the world'.

Any American who thinks our president - whichever one we elect - is "king of the world" is almost as demented as Trump and you.
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« Reply #14728 on: June 06, 2019, 12:15:28 AM »

The science...there is climate change.
True.
The climate is always changing, Ice Ages come and go, glaciers started melting 15,000 years ago.
Long ago sea levels rose, and flooded the land bridge between Australia and India.

Sydney's dam is down to 50% capacity...water restrictions have been introduced.

No1 radio host has been telling the politicians for decades to build more dams....did they listen?   no.
Wouldn't surprise me if this time Sydney does run out of water.

Building more dams would not have alleviated this problem, but... why bother talking to somebody who thinks this rising heat is like the others and has decided that if the seas are going to rise we should just let everybody die and our world to fall apart.

Given that you see nothing wrong with the US government killing kids, I guess I should not be surprised.

If it is, the US govt should not be killing kids.
If the seas rise, then everybody should be moved to higher ground.

Gee, it only took you how many months to utter those?! Wow!

"If it is..." however, is part of your ongoing naivete.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-is-confiscating-migrant-kids-medicine-us-doctors-say-225354608.html
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« Reply #14729 on: June 06, 2019, 12:44:20 AM »

Soooooooooo much winning!

This is from two years ago:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/medicare-social-security-forecasts-show-no-sign-of-trumps-promised-growth

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Medicare’s trust fund for inpatient care will become insolvent in 2026, three years earlier than previously expected, the trustees reported Tuesday. The insolvency date for Social Security stayed steady, with a projection of 2034. That does not mean, however, that the funds will be exhausted by those dates. Rather, those are the dates that the programs’ costs will exceed the tax revenue coming in. The report found that the programs will be able to cover about three-quarters of promised benefits for the next half-century without any policy changes.

Announcing the report, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin insisted that the tax cuts Republicans passed earlier this year will generate so much economic activity that they will more than cover the benefits of the tens of millions of American who depend on the programs.


“The Administration’s economic agenda – tax cuts, regulatory reform, and improved trade agreements – will generate the long-term growth needed to help secure these programs and lead them to a more stable path,” he said. “Social Security and Medicare are the federal government’s two largest programs, and millions of Americans heavily rely on their benefits. Robust economic growth will help to ensure their lasting stability.”

Tuesday’s report shows, however, that not only has that promised growth failed to materialize, the deep tax cuts are causing the federal trust funds to deplete faster — though the biggest factor is that there are more people retiring and depending on the program than there are taxpaying workers to replace them. The report itself also acknowledged that the tax bill’s health care changes are worsening the Medicare trust fund’s financial future, citing “the repeal of the individual mandate, which increased the estimate of the number of uninsured, in turn leading to a large increase in uncompensated care payments.”

A more recent (2019) look at Medicare:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/medicare-is-not-bankrupt

Still set to become insolvent in 2026.

Social Security is looking at 2035 now, a year better than it was.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-social-security-medicare-warning-20190422-story.html

Still not good.
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