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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

Tough call by Thibs.

Presumably Noel and Taj still healing. 

Mitchell at 7'1" and Julius at 6'9" with two wings/facilitator in RJ, Fournier and Burks, all in that 6'6"/6'7" zone. 

SIZE/SHOOTING

While Noel is healing...please note the ages of our second unit. 

Sims [23]-Toppin [23]-Grimes [21]-Quickley [22]-Rose [33]

Sims a solid 6'9"/6'10" with insane hops and motor and Obi a lithe, quick, beefy 6'9" [Bam, Harrell] while Grimes is 6'5" and IQ 6'3"and Rose 6'2" 

McBride [21, and 6'2"] is going to get his shot soon, assuming Rose requires some recovery time.  Did you guys see that coverage and steal against the Hawks and his layup finish.   

SPEED/TENACITY

Feel bad for Kemba, but we were getting crushed on defense, and were out of sync offensively. 

Meanwhile, Thibs doesn't play youth? 

I've been waiting most of my adult life to see the Knicks KEEP THEIR DRAFT PICKS, to nurture, develop and ACTUALLY PLAY their puppies. 

And look at the tenacious spirit and intensity they bring to the court. 

PS: A lot of fans were down on our brain trust for picking Grimes, as Cam Thomas dropped to the Nets, and he had a terrific summer league, just a lights out shooter.  Well, hope they get to say hello on Tuesday.  I still cannot get over Quentin's relentless defensive tenacity [that and a stellar performance from Burks and Walker's spot on the nench spelled Kemba's fate.  Once those threes start falling, you're going to hear chants of Quen-Tin as well as O-Bi. 

[chipstern]

Majored in African & African Diaspora Studies with a minor in Anthropology at Texas.

Father Charles played basketball at the University of Minnesota.

Has five older brothers, two of whom played Division I college basketball and one of whom played D-1 college football.

44.5-inch max vertical jump at the 2021 NBA Draft Combine tied for the third-highest jump in event history.

[chipstern]

File this under YIKES. 

The Bucks just inked DeMarcus Cousins to a one year, non guaranteed deal. 

Whoosh.  I could see that being a really good fit. 

[lesterluv]

Knicks will go back to their regular lineup.

Well this didn't age well, lol......

Not crowing, the problems in our first five weren't all Kemba, and still being fixed, But hard to argue with this-

Knicks have the best defense in the league when he's on the bench ...99.0 DRtg...and are dead last ...116.3 DRtg...when he's on the floor

[lesterluv]

24.5 more minutes a game to see the players we really need to see

[chipstern]

24.5 more minutes a game to see the players we really need to see

I love Kemba, but ball don't lie. 

[bodiddley]

So Kemba and Evan, Julius and RJ are struggling?
GROW THE FUCK UP KNICKS FANS. 

Okay, so maybe it is a little concerning when 4 of your starters are struggling (and the 5th is hobbled).

It was time to move Kemba out of the starting 5.  And apparently Thibs doesn't want to Kemba to muck up the stellar bench play.  A tough call.
I was hinting at dropping Kemba entirely, for a while, in my previous post.
(Meanwhile, Elf didn't even get off the Suns bench when they blew out the Knix).

I'd rather see Rose start, with Quix the 2nd unit PG.
But Rose doesn't seem ready yet. 
Fournier or Burks as the SG.
Burks more intriguing and energetic, but Fournier gets off to hot starts before disappearing.  So either way.

I'm not a fan of a no-PG alignment, though BKY does the same, so it shouldn't be an issue in G1.

Anyway, credit to Thibs for shaking up the dysfunctional starting 5.

[facilitatorn]

At some point you are going to want to plug Kemba in. At that point you are going to want him fresher, healthier, and more familiar with the team. We were treading water with him and our kids show they play just as well or better.

Alec and Grimy to the stage. Kemba to the lab. He may come back and somehow jumpstart the season.

Knicks fan TV on the topic

http://youtu.be/9YW7sCN_rFs

Also, I like Noel least among our bigs, by himself or in tandem with anybody else.

[bodiddley]

So Porter lasted all of two months after signing his max deal?
Negligent to give a pre-injured guy, who was just starting to bloom but not yet a star, a 5 year max deal.

I don't get giving 5 year max deals to guys who haven't proven themselves yet.
I'm a John Collins fan, nice player, valuable, but still inconsistent and still working on his D.  Will he ever be worth a max contract (circa $25M and up)?  Not likely.

I'd only give 5 year maxes to players such as Booker, Luka, Morant who have proven themselves as elite.  Otherwise 4 year max is the top market rate.
I thought the Suns were wise not to drop a 5 max on Ayton.  Nice player, still developing, still needs refinement.  4 year max would be an overpay and make me nervous.  Any team out there willing to drop a 4 year max on Ayton?  Unlikely.

I wouldn't want to max any player who hasn't proven elite and/or consistent.
And I'd reserve the 5th year max for franchise cornerstone players.

A 5 max for Porter was a ridiculous risk.
He's still a clueless defender, and far from an all-around player.
With the ghost of multiple back surgeries in his past.

[bodiddley]

Nawlins has been hobbled all season.
Was an impressive warrior all last year.
His 4Q blocks were a regular catalyst to Knick wins.

Both Father Noel and Mitch Riderson have been gimpy this year.

[facilitatorn]

So with the shakeup,

Starters

Mitch Randle Barrett Fornier Burks

Bench

Sims Obi Grimes Quickley

Mending

Taj Rose Noel

Developing in the minors

Deuce Luca

Mothballed

Kemba

Super situational

Knox and Seldon

[chipstern]

So Porter lasted all of two months after signing his max deal?
Negligent to give a pre-injured guy, who was just starting to bloom but not yet a star, a 5 year max deal.

I don't get giving 5 year max deals to guys who haven't proven themselves yet.
I'm a John Collins fan, nice player, valuable, but still inconsistent and still working on his D.  Will he ever be worth a max contract (circa $25M and up)?  Not likely.

I'd only give 5 year maxes to players such as Booker, Luka, Morant who have proven themselves as elite.  Otherwise 4 year max is the top market rate.
I thought the Suns were wise not to drop a 5 max on Ayton.  Nice player, still developing, still needs refinement.  4 year max would be an overpay and make me nervous.  Any team out there willing to drop a 4 year max on Ayton?  Unlikely.

I wouldn't want to max any player who hasn't proven elite and/or consistent.
And I'd reserve the 5th year max for franchise cornerstone players.

A 5 max for Porter was a ridiculous risk.
He's still a clueless defender, and far from an all-around player.
With the ghost of multiple back surgeries in his past.

Julius gave the Knicks a hometown discount. 

Could have held out for 5 years/$200 Million.  Think he was not only making a tangible gesture to the Knicks, but being rational about money. A bird in the hand worth two in the bush. 

2021-2026: 21.7/26.1/28.2/30.3/32.4

Not too shabby.  Locked in for the Knicks.  Security for Julius' family. 

Collins was pushing for a max contact. 

Hawks resisted.  Collins got a fair deal.

2021-2026: 23/23.5/25.3/26.5/26.5

Capella?

2021-2025: 18.6/19.7/22.1/23.7

BB another two years at 18, with a player option in the third year. 

Gallo made out like a bandit: 20.4/21.4

I like Porter.  Made great strides. 

But like Philly with Simmons?

Under no compulsion to max the motherfucker out. 

Porter

2021-2026: 5.2/29.7/32.1/34.5/36.9

Simmons

2021-2025: 33/35.4/37.9/40.3

YIKES. 

Who the fuck is going to trade for Simmons? 

Here's a BoD trade.

Houston gives Philly Christian Wood & Eric Gordon + plus 2022 first-round selection from Brooklyn OR Miami (top 14 protected). Whichever is higher  Plus 2024 Brooklyn #1. 

[chipstern]

Pretty fascinating stuff. 

https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Knicks.htm

[chipstern]

Nawlins has been hobbled all season.
Was an impressive warrior all last year.
His 4Q blocks were a regular catalyst to Knick wins.

Both Father Noel and Mitch Riderson have been gimpy this year.

I love Nerlens Noel.  Not just a rim protector, a but an excellent all around defender. 

Has been gimpy all his career. 

Sims gives us more time to let our gimps Nerlens and Taj to heal, and for Mitchell to reup his stamina and sea legs. 

Meanwhile.

YA THINK JERICHO MIGHT BE MOTIVATING BROTHER NOEL? 

[chipstern]

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