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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[kidcarter8]

Will Biden be doing anything to stop overseas outsourcing companies being allowed to operate on American soil and seemingly take American jobs?

No.

"Stopping" all foreign businesses on our soil is not what it is about.

Encourage US business to be better - and get out of their way.

[kidcarter8]

Larry-I never said you were stupid.


Argue for ten pages over that now

Aren't you supposed to sucking Trump's put?

shhhhhh......

[facilitatorn]

http://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/01/28/economy-and-covid-19-top-the-publics-policy-agenda-for-2021/

Keeping to only things near or above 60% support, HR1 (the voting rights act), MFA or short of that the Public Option, cracking down hard on white supremacist terrorism and the nexus of terrorists and the republican party, and finally an infrastructure act strengthening unions and pushing us toward a Green New Deal. Legalizing cannabis on a federal level and postal banking along with encouraging energy co-ops are for the bonus round depending on how the fights over already wildly popular polices go.

Gun control and Police reform are starting out in dicier waters facing headwinds, so might best be left to the laboratory of municipalities, counties, and states with strong federal executive support independent of Congress.

This is both pragmatic and the correct formula which Biden is pursuing with appropriate and ceaseless prodding from his left, leading to a reasonable center-right populist approach despite the misgivings of those to the right of this program however they choose to categorize themselves.

[facilitatorn]

Larry-I never said you were stupid.


Argue for ten pages over that now

Aren't you supposed to sucking Trump's put?

shhhhhh......

Now you are afraid your overlord will tax you, like he’s trying with the RNC, for taking his name in vain.

You chose your bedfellows.

[bankshot1]

Anyone else really enjoying this battle between Forum Dick 1 and Forum Dick 2?

Not enjoying,  and scrolling past.   At some point you have to wonder how expending all those words on ill will and gotcha jabs affects the brain.   If it's truly the SSDD, then why bother with it at all?

Bart-You might want to wonder why Larry brought up a long forgotten and dismissed piece of his intentionally misleading bullshit rather than discuss Joe Manchin's 12-hour decision to deliver the decisive 50th vote in the Biden relief bill within the context of Larry's wet dream of what he espouses as an instantaneously achievable GO BIG agenda and wish list.

The SSDD was a just gentle reminder to Larry that his bullshit is remembered.

I like you, and I like Larry, but why does every discussion between the two of you seem to be like trying to handle glue? Lord knows I occasionally like arguments where the quote boxes run to double figures but sometimes it needs a rest.

The only argument is Banks has decided I am stupid and dishonest.

Larry-I never said you were stupid.

Sure you have, Banks.

Quite frequently. You know, when you say someone should get smart, learn something, etc?"

By the way, are you going to watch the Harry and Meghan interview with Oprah?

Larry our debate dating to last June was framed as GO BIG v GO SMART.

And i was specific about what I meant and what pitfalls I saw in GO BIG and the tangible benefits of GO SMART.

IMO the D-losses in the House in the '20 elections were associated with 'defunding police" and voters concerns about libs being too liberal and too socialist. And the risks were real. 

The recent 50-49 vote party-line vote highlights the extreme difficulty of over-reaching in a highly divided country, and alienating mod and indy voters.

And I teased you about an inability on your part to GO SMART.

Grow thicker skin and take off your blinders.

I wasn't planning on watching the royals, or whatever they're calling themselves now, Mr and Mrs Windsor, not my thing.

i suspect it will be on the internet tomorrow.

[LarryBnDC]

Anyone else really enjoying this battle between Forum Dick 1 and Forum Dick 2?

Not enjoying,  and scrolling past.   At some point you have to wonder how expending all those words on ill will and gotcha jabs affects the brain.   If it's truly the SSDD, then why bother with it at all?

Bart-You might want to wonder why Larry brought up a long forgotten and dismissed piece of his intentionally misleading bullshit rather than discuss Joe Manchin's 12-hour decision to deliver the decisive 50th vote in the Biden relief bill within the context of Larry's wet dream of what he espouses as an instantaneously achievable GO BIG agenda and wish list.

The SSDD was a just gentle reminder to Larry that his bullshit is remembered.

I like you, and I like Larry, but why does every discussion between the two of you seem to be like trying to handle glue? Lord knows I occasionally like arguments where the quote boxes run to double figures but sometimes it needs a rest.

The only argument is Banks has decided I am stupid and dishonest.

As far as dishonest, that's a winning argument as applied to what's already been proven through the June repost.

You'd be stupid to keep trying to pretend that isn't the case---which is what you've done.



May be you'll wise up and admit when you're wrong---like RED does!

LOL!!!

And here is where the latest episode of "Banks must prove himself to be superior in every way" began.


I told you to fuck off and Banks taunted me like the schoolyard bully he claimed to have been and here we are. When he bitched about me calling him Rudy for talking loud and saying nothing but bullshit I reminded him of the instance to which I refer]erred.

He said "Tough shit. Get over it."

You ain't shit.

You disrespected me (which is par for the course - you got this wired obsession) but then you disrespected my wife.

That will bring us back to Fuck Off, Bitch.

[LarryBnDC]

Boston lockjaw thing. Once they latch on, right or wrong, it’s hard for them to let go.

Fac, I can be a tenacious mothafucker, but rather than post your empty rhetoric, which I'll admiit you are very good at, type a coherent thought or two on "GO BIG" and in particular the laundry list of about 20 social programs you and Larry described as GO BIG and that Biden should pursue in his first two years, in the context of the 50-49 staight party line vote we saw this week-end over the $1.9T RELIEF PACKAGE.

Whats the point of winning elections if you can't/won't deliver for the folks who got you elected? Ever Republican who voted against has to tell the 70% of their party why they voted to fuck them.

Push for EVERYTHING at the moment the nation is coming through the most catastrophic year since 1865.

If you wan to nibble around the edges in the name of pragmatism then you must be mighty comfortable or don't give a fuck aboutt those who aren't.

[LarryBnDC]

The leftists in the party need to see what's really in front of them, and not what they want to see---and maybe they will begin to understand that the pragmatism of President Biden is the correct formula for growing and sustaining Democratic political power.

Yup.

Historically mid-terms are brutal for the out of office party, but if Biden can get America to the mid-terms healthy and happy and hopeful, and the Dems ask voters

ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE...


The Ds have a chance to consolidate gains and move more aggressively in '22 and then again '24.

Put the Repubs in a box and make them argue against shit most might want, jobs, heathcare, insurance, a future for their kids.

Or Dems can scare the mods and indies going into '22 with easily demonized social programs that the Repubs are really good at.

Willie Horton's going to college for free and banging your daughter and she's getting free abortions down at planned parenthood!

There you go, fighting the election before last again.

[bankshot1]

Larry I attacked your posts on content and your ability to promote and defend your opinion, as I would with anyone else. No more no less.

But why, out of the blue, did you switch to a long-ago dead topic (Kaep etc) when the topic being discussed was the 50-49 vote, and Manchin's 12 hour decision to cast a vote with the Dems. (IIRC I said something like America was 50-50 last June) and Manchin's 12 hour decision to cast a vote with the Ds.

One might think there was something you did not want to address.

HEH

[bankshot1]

The leftists in the party need to see what's really in front of them, and not what they want to see---and maybe they will begin to understand that the pragmatism of President Biden is the correct formula for growing and sustaining Democratic political power.

Yup.

Historically mid-terms are brutal for the out of office party, but if Biden can get America to the mid-terms healthy and happy and hopeful, and the Dems ask voters

ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE...


The Ds have a chance to consolidate gains and move more aggressively in '22 and then again '24.

Put the Repubs in a box and make them argue against shit most might want, jobs, heathcare, insurance, a future for their kids.

Or Dems can scare the mods and indies going into '22 with easily demonized social programs that the Repubs are really good at.

Willie Horton's going to college for free and banging your daughter and she's getting free abortions down at planned parenthood!

There you go, fighting the election before last again.

Larry can you type that in English. I have no idea what you mean to convey.

Thanks in advance.

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/01/28/economy-and-covid-19-top-the-publics-policy-agenda-for-2021/

Keeping to only things near or above 60% support, HR1 (the voting rights act), MFA or short of that the Public Option, cracking down hard on white supremacist terrorism and the nexus of terrorists and the republican party, and finally an infrastructure act strengthening unions and pushing us toward a Green New Deal. Legalizing cannabis on a federal level and postal banking along with encouraging energy co-ops are for the bonus round depending on how the fights over already wildly popular polices go.

Gun control and Police reform are starting out in dicier waters facing headwinds, so might best be left to the laboratory of municipalities, counties, and states with strong federal executive support independent of Congress.

This is both pragmatic and the correct formula which Biden is pursuing with appropriate and ceaseless prodding from his left, leading to a reasonable center-right populist approach despite the misgivings of those to the right of this program however they choose to categorize themselves.

Self styled moderates for some reason get a team of power hitters and have them bunt at every at bat.

[LarryBnDC]

The leftists in the party need to see what's really in front of them, and not what they want to see---and maybe they will begin to understand that the pragmatism of President Biden is the correct formula for growing and sustaining Democratic political power.

Yup.

Historically mid-terms are brutal for the out of office party, but if Biden can get America to the mid-terms healthy and happy and hopeful, and the Dems ask voters

ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE...


The Ds have a chance to consolidate gains and move more aggressively in '22 and then again '24.

Put the Repubs in a box and make them argue against shit most might want, jobs, heathcare, insurance, a future for their kids.

Or Dems can scare the mods and indies going into '22 with easily demonized social programs that the Repubs are really good at.

Willie Horton's going to college for free and banging your daughter and she's getting free abortions down at planned parenthood!

There you go, fighting the election before last again.

Larry can you type that in English. I have no idea what you mean to convey.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah.

Fuck the people who elected you... again.

[bankshot1]

Boston lockjaw thing. Once they latch on, right or wrong, it’s hard for them to let go.

Fac, I can be a tenacious mothafucker, but rather than post your empty rhetoric, which I'll admiit you are very good at, type a coherent thought or two on "GO BIG" and in particular the laundry list of about 20 social programs you and Larry described as GO BIG and that Biden should pursue in his first two years, in the context of the 50-49 staight party line vote we saw this week-end over the $1.9T RELIEF PACKAGE.

Whats the point of winning elections if you can't/won't deliver for the folks who got you elected? Ever Republican who voted against has to tell the 70% of their party why they voted to fuck them.

Push for EVERYTHING at the moment the nation is coming through the most catastrophic year since 1865.

If you wan to nibble around the edges in the name of pragmatism then you must be mighty comfortable or don't give a fuck aboutt those who aren't.

wrong again larry.

there's more than one way to skin a cat.

I want the Dems to hold the House in '22, maybe pick-up more Senate seats and push for more changes and kick ass in '24.

I told you last year that Biden and the Dems had a chance to fashion a long-lasting FDR type social program and coalition, but it was unlikely to be done in 2 years.

I think if america is healthy, happy and working going into '22, the Repubs might have a real tough time politically.

YMMV

[bankshot1]

The leftists in the party need to see what's really in front of them, and not what they want to see---and maybe they will begin to understand that the pragmatism of President Biden is the correct formula for growing and sustaining Democratic political power.

Yup.

Historically mid-terms are brutal for the out of office party, but if Biden can get America to the mid-terms healthy and happy and hopeful, and the Dems ask voters

ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE...


The Ds have a chance to consolidate gains and move more aggressively in '22 and then again '24.

Put the Repubs in a box and make them argue against shit most might want, jobs, heathcare, insurance, a future for their kids.

Or Dems can scare the mods and indies going into '22 with easily demonized social programs that the Repubs are really good at.

Willie Horton's going to college for free and banging your daughter and she's getting free abortions down at planned parenthood!

There you go, fighting the election before last again.

Larry can you type that in English. I have no idea what you mean to convey.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah.

Fuck the people who elected you... again.

Right, get them healthy, and working and put a brighter future in front of them for their kids is not fucking the people who elected you.

its making love to them.

Larry there are people in this country, the vast majority who do not share your view or even my view of social progress. They have to be convinced. Not scared.

That you think they can be scared over immediately, when 74 milion of them voted for Trump, is somewhat mind-boggling.

[LarryBnDC]

Larry I attacked your posts on content and your ability to promote and defend your opinion, as I would with anyone else. No more no less.

But why, out of the blue, did you switch to a long-ago dead topic (Kaep etc) when the topic being discussed was the 50-49 vote, and Manchin's 12 hour decision to cast a vote with the Dems. (IIRC I said something like America was 50-50 last June) and Manchin's 12 hour decision to cast a vote with the Ds.

One might think there was something you did not want to address.

HEH

Manchin is no fool. He can only milk this for only so loing so he's flexing while he can.

Do you think he would have sunk a $1.9 trillion rescue rope to the country? To what end?

Manchin has placed himself in position to be defender of the filibuster so he gets to demand concessions and rule changes in order to keep the filibuster intact.
I can live with that.

I brought that up after you reminded me how you "pounded" on me in June for basically saying Biden needed to take advantage of the way the country was mobilized and paying attention.

That reminded me you accused me of lying about the protest movement by asserting America had the chance to listen peacefully and now here we are.

In my haste to post a Nap story with a pull quote I forgot to take "this week" out of the quote from the there year old story.

It was a mistake.

You won't let go with your accusation that I lied.

With means you believe I thought I would do that with the purpose of getting away with to.  That would make me stupid.

Once you decided that was it and NOTHING would let you admit you were mistaken in your accusation.

you're wrong and you really should apologize but you won't.
because:

Tough Shit.