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Voting closed: March 04, 2020, 12:32:27 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30345 on: March 31, 2020, 05:22:37 PM »

Study: Ibuprofen Among Drugs Found Safe To Use In Treatment Of Coronavirus

Two caveats about this study (which I have now read - thank you for the link that led me there!).

1) It is not a study of ibuprofen and coronavirus. It is a review of the literature. No humans or animals or even ibuprofen pills were involved in this study.

2) As far as I can tell, ecancer.org is a wonderful open access resource, but it is not peer reviewed.

And as it explained, it found no evidence either encouraging or discouraging use of ibuprofen (or other NSAIDs) with COVID-19.
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« Reply #30346 on: March 31, 2020, 05:55:54 PM »

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"Imagine the potential psychological and human toll if this shutdown continues indefinitely, unemployment reaches 20% or higher, as some now predict, and we sink into a deep recession or depression....

"...In addition to the current human toll, future generations will be required to pick up that tab.

"Every premature death is a tragedy, but death is an unavoidable part of life. More than 2.8 million die each year nearly 7,700 a day. The 2017-18 flu season was exceptionally bad, with 61,000 deaths attributed to it. Can you imagine the panic if those mortality statistics were attributed to a new virus and reported nonstop?"

Senator Ron Johnson, demonstrating a complete and utter lack of clue.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30347 on: March 31, 2020, 06:01:36 PM »

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"Imagine the potential psychological and human toll if this shutdown continues indefinitely, unemployment reaches 20% or higher, as some now predict, and we sink into a deep recession or depression....

"...In addition to the current human toll, future generations will be required to pick up that tab.

"Every premature death is a tragedy, but death is an unavoidable part of life. More than 2.8 million die each year nearly 7,700 a day. The 2017-18 flu season was exceptionally bad, with 61,000 deaths attributed to it. Can you imagine the panic if those mortality statistics were attributed to a new virus and reported nonstop?"

Senator Ron Johnson, demonstrating a complete and utter lack of clue.

Ive met him on several occasions, personal and professional, and he is a human version of a See and Say toy. Just pull the string and he can rattle off bullshit gop talking points without missing a beat.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30348 on: March 31, 2020, 06:21:12 PM »

Curious why Josh deleted the Avera page on NSAIDs.  Avera is a reputable health organization in my state and Minnesota and Nebraska.   One can certainly question their summation on ibuprofen, but need it be deleted?   Kid just posted this a few minutes ago and it's gone.



https://www.avera.org/balance/wellness-and-preventive-care/how-do-i-manage-covid-19-symptoms-at-home/
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« Reply #30349 on: March 31, 2020, 06:33:01 PM »

Trump previously said he thinks it would be difficult to get equipment back from states and redistributed once they have been issued to hospitals.




I would think this is true



https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-03-31-20/h_d7910f7f1f9212668bcb09785128d04e
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30350 on: March 31, 2020, 06:41:40 PM »

Seems President Trump is listening to who you would call the "right people"


Not all of Trump's advisers support the decision, and some have privately questioned the models his health advisers used to convince him the distancing efforts were necessary, multiple people familiar with the matter said. Trump faced intense pressure from business leaders and some conservative economists to reopen some parts of the country before ultimately deciding against it.

Amid the internal debate over whether to ease the social distancing efforts, some aides recommended the President only extend them another 15 days, but health advisers argued a month was necessary, people familiar with the discussions said. Trump told aides it would be better to ease the guidelines earlier than expected rather than have to extend them again.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/trump-white-house-guidelines-coronavirus/index.html
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« Reply #30351 on: March 31, 2020, 07:18:46 PM »

Aeems President Trump is listening to who you would call the "right people"


Not all of Trump's advisers support the decision, and some have privately questioned the models his health advisers used to convince him the distancing efforts were necessary, multiple people familiar with the matter said. Trump faced intense pressure from business leaders and some conservative economists to reopen some parts of the country before ultimately deciding against it.

Amid the internal debate over whether to ease the social distancing efforts, some aides recommended the President only extend them another 15 days, but health advisers argued a month was necessary, people familiar with the discussions said. Trump told aides it would be better to ease the guidelines earlier than expected rather than have to extend them again.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/trump-white-house-guidelines-coronavirus/index.html

Good for him.

And what is wrong with those aides?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30352 on: March 31, 2020, 07:19:03 PM »

On the issue of the blood shortage...

There is a blood shortage, and the Red Cross and others need blood.

We should make them pay us money for our blood, instead of us giving our blood to them for free, and they will not give people free blood, when they give people blood they make people pay money for it.

And in places like Los Angeles where it was against the law to feed the homeless, I would have loved to have been able to sell blood and buy food when I was homeless and hungry. Paying the poor people for their blood can provide some food for them. Especially now when everyone is out of work.

They are not going to give your blood to other people for free, and you should at least make enough money to buy some food for selling your blood. We need to make them pay for it.

Salute,

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30353 on: March 31, 2020, 07:19:14 PM »

Curious why Josh deleted the Avera page on NSAIDs.  Avera is a reputable health organization in my state and Minnesota and Nebraska.   One can certainly question their summation on ibuprofen, but need it be deleted?   Kid just posted this a few minutes ago and it's gone.



https://www.avera.org/balance/wellness-and-preventive-care/how-do-i-manage-covid-19-symptoms-at-home/

Thank you for reposting.
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« Reply #30354 on: March 31, 2020, 07:28:22 PM »

Answering my earlier question on if China might be price gouging -

seems they are charging NY state 25K for each of 17,000 ventilators that they have ordered (hopefully not too much cash up front)

If you are playing at home that is a cool 425 mil.

China cha-ching.
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« Reply #30355 on: March 31, 2020, 07:30:55 PM »

On the issue of the blood shortage...

There is a blood shortage, and the Red Cross and others need blood.

We should make them pay us money for our blood, instead of us giving our blood to them for free, and they will not give people free blood, when they give people blood they make people pay money for it.

And in places like Los Angeles where it was against the law to feed the homeless, I would have loved to have been able to sell blood and buy food when I was homeless and hungry. Paying the poor people for their blood can provide some food for them. Especially now when everyone is out of work.

They are not going to give your blood to other people for free, and you should at least make enough money to buy some food for selling your blood. We need to make them pay for it.

Salute,

Tony V.


When you give blood do you need to know your blood type?  Probably not, right?
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« Reply #30356 on: March 31, 2020, 07:40:54 PM »

On the issue of the blood shortage...

There is a blood shortage, and the Red Cross and others need blood.

We should make them pay us money for our blood, instead of us giving our blood to them for free, and they will not give people free blood, when they give people blood they make people pay money for it.

And in places like Los Angeles where it was against the law to feed the homeless, I would have loved to have been able to sell blood and buy food when I was homeless and hungry. Paying the poor people for their blood can provide some food for them. Especially now when everyone is out of work.

They are not going to give your blood to other people for free, and you should at least make enough money to buy some food for selling your blood. We need to make them pay for it.

Salute,

Tony V.


When you give blood do you need to know your blood type?  Probably not, right?

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ou don't need to know your blood type.
We need donors of all blood types to ensure a sufficient supply for patients. Donors may be notified of their blood type following their donation when they receive their blood donor card or by creating a profile through the Red Cross Blood Donor App
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30357 on: March 31, 2020, 07:43:48 PM »

On the issue of the blood shortage...

There is a blood shortage, and the Red Cross and others need blood.

We should make them pay us money for our blood, instead of us giving our blood to them for free, and they will not give people free blood, when they give people blood they make people pay money for it.

And in places like Los Angeles where it was against the law to feed the homeless, I would have loved to have been able to sell blood and buy food when I was homeless and hungry. Paying the poor people for their blood can provide some food for them. Especially now when everyone is out of work.

They are not going to give your blood to other people for free, and you should at least make enough money to buy some food for selling your blood. We need to make them pay for it.

Salute,

Tony V.


When you give blood do you need to know your blood type?  Probably not, right?
Yeah, they take your word for it. No need to check for themselves.
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« Reply #30358 on: March 31, 2020, 07:47:41 PM »

Might be a good idea to give blood on a forum-wide basis
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« Reply #30359 on: March 31, 2020, 07:53:03 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/pentagon-ventilators/index.html

The Pentagon says they have not yet sent the ventilators they have because HHS hasn't told them where to send them.

All under control, here.
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