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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Trump's camapign rant on WH lawn is quite a show, it's incoherence was impressive.

He made Howard Beale appear cool calm and collected.

[Echo4]

Trump's camapign rant on WH lawn is quite a show, it's incoherence was impressive.

He made Howard Beale appear cool calm and collected.

Trump should have borrowed a window display to use.

[bankshot1]

DACA DACA

give me the blues

and got a bad case of the Chinese flu

[REDSTATEWARD]

Oh, in person schools are optimal. When they are safe. In the US they are not safe now because Trump and his acolytes have refused to do the hard work to make them safe. Unlike, well, every country you cited above. But Trump was so concerned that a bad economy would hurt his election chances he forced reopenings before we were ready and we are now worse than we were when we first started the shut downs.

Keeping schools open are decisions made by states and school districts.
And Science is on the side of having kids in schools

By "science" Red means prayer and best wishes.

No. I mean Science.
So does the AAP.

Just because you capitalize "Science" this time doesn't mean you understand it any better.

I understand it quite well.

You know what they say, the truly stupid never grasp their own limitations and cannot recognize what they do not know. Red proves this time and again. AAP specifically indicated pandemic school reopening should be left to medical experts. But since that does not fit your argument - or.rather, the argument you cut and pasted from the right wing source you read but did not think through - you ignore it.

I didn’t ignore anything.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Interesting edit from the statement four days ago. But from this:

These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words, in most of the country it is not safe to go back to school at this point.

And, from the Israeli data, even in the parts where we think it is safe, we are probably wrong.

But, Ward? This is still featured with the page you linked:
https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/

Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it.

THAT is what you are decidedly ignoring.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Updated as of today and previously posted.

Dim bulb:

They are two different documents, both featured on the AAP's front page.

Further, yours refers to the 7/10 document "For more information."

It is not superseded, just written by a different group for a different publication.

I posted the same document twice.
At the bottom of each posting

Last Updated 7/14/2020
Source American Academy of Pediatrics (Copyright © 2020)

[Yankguy1]

Trump's camapign rant on WH lawn is quite a show, it's incoherence was impressive.

He made Howard Beale appear cool calm and collected.

That you can still watch him is a tribute to your fortitude.

[bankshot1]

Trump's camapign rant on WH lawn is quite a show, it's incoherence was impressive.

He made Howard Beale appear cool calm and collected.

That you can still watch him is a tribute to your fortitude.

It was an incoherent idiotic campaign rant. But it was impressive in a very demoralizing way. Its hard to believe this madman clown is president.

[Echo4]

Oh, in person schools are optimal. When they are safe. In the US they are not safe now because Trump and his acolytes have refused to do the hard work to make them safe. Unlike, well, every country you cited above. But Trump was so concerned that a bad economy would hurt his election chances he forced reopenings before we were ready and we are now worse than we were when we first started the shut downs.

Keeping schools open are decisions made by states and school districts.
And Science is on the side of having kids in schools

By "science" Red means prayer and best wishes.

No. I mean Science.
So does the AAP.

Just because you capitalize "Science" this time doesn't mean you understand it any better.

I understand it quite well.

You know what they say, the truly stupid never grasp their own limitations and cannot recognize what they do not know. Red proves this time and again. AAP specifically indicated pandemic school reopening should be left to medical experts. But since that does not fit your argument - or.rather, the argument you cut and pasted from the right wing source you read but did not think through - you ignore it.

I didn’t ignore anything.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Interesting edit from the statement four days ago. But from this:

These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words, in most of the country it is not safe to go back to school at this point.

And, from the Israeli data, even in the parts where we think it is safe, we are probably wrong.

But, Ward? This is still featured with the page you linked:
https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/

Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it.

THAT is what you are decidedly ignoring.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Updated as of today and previously posted.

Dim bulb:

They are two different documents, both featured on the AAP's front page.

Further, yours refers to the 7/10 document "For more information."

It is not superseded, just written by a different group for a different publication.

I posted the same document twice.
At the bottom of each posting

Last Updated 7/14/2020
Source American Academy of Pediatrics (Copyright © 2020)

Yes, Ward. How amazing!

Almost immediately above it, it also says "More information:
Pediatricians, Educators and Superintendents Urge a Safe Return to School This Fall​​" which is the doc I linked (twice) and which HAS NOT BEEN SUPERSEDED.

I imagine that AAP will offer a clarification about what you see as a discrepancy, but which is not. But, again, from the link you posted:

Ideally, local school leaders, public health experts​, educators and parents can work together to decide how and when to reopen schools.  These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

[bambu.]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-live-updates-miami-florida-is-now-worlds-covid19-epicentre-expert-says/live-coverage/bffacd3eae8b9f6a5cb99b6012725ae9

Health authorities have confirmed links between coronavirus cases in Black Lives Matter protests and a cluster of at least 242 cases in Melbourne's public housing towers.

As many as 10,000 people attended the June 6 rally in Melbourne’s CBD, despite warnings from Premier Daniel Andrews and the Department of Health and Human Services urging people to “consider other ways to show support”.

#####

Yes, this is what happens when the streets get taken over by protesters, and cease to be 'owned' by the govt.
...and what happens when weak govt leaders warn and urge instead of ban and enforce.

Now thousands are locked down in the public housing towers....because one, one protester caught it and took it to her retail store workplace, then a colleague took it into the towers...and from there it spread quickly, shared facilities in some parts of some towers.

[Echo4]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-live-updates-miami-florida-is-now-worlds-covid19-epicentre-expert-says/live-coverage/bffacd3eae8b9f6a5cb99b6012725ae9

Health authorities have confirmed links between coronavirus cases in Black Lives Matter protests and a cluster of at least 242 cases in Melbourne's public housing towers.

As many as 10,000 people attended the June 6 rally in Melbourne’s CBD, despite warnings from Premier Daniel Andrews and the Department of Health and Human Services urging people to “consider other ways to show support”.

#####

Yes, this is what happens when the streets get taken over by protesters, and cease to be 'owned' by the govt.
...and what happens when weak govt leaders warn and urge instead of ban and enforce.

Now thousands are locked down in 'the projects'...public housing towers....because one, one protester caught it and took it to her retail store workplace, then a colleague took it into the towers...and from there it spread quickly, shared facilities in some parts of some towers.

That's very unfortunately. It's also different from what has been seen hear, suggesting perhaps your protesters were not wearing masks.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Oh, in person schools are optimal. When they are safe. In the US they are not safe now because Trump and his acolytes have refused to do the hard work to make them safe. Unlike, well, every country you cited above. But Trump was so concerned that a bad economy would hurt his election chances he forced reopenings before we were ready and we are now worse than we were when we first started the shut downs.

Keeping schools open are decisions made by states and school districts.
And Science is on the side of having kids in schools

By "science" Red means prayer and best wishes.

No. I mean Science.
So does the AAP.

Just because you capitalize "Science" this time doesn't mean you understand it any better.

I understand it quite well.

You know what they say, the truly stupid never grasp their own limitations and cannot recognize what they do not know. Red proves this time and again. AAP specifically indicated pandemic school reopening should be left to medical experts. But since that does not fit your argument - or.rather, the argument you cut and pasted from the right wing source you read but did not think through - you ignore it.

I didn’t ignore anything.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Interesting edit from the statement four days ago. But from this:

These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words, in most of the country it is not safe to go back to school at this point.

And, from the Israeli data, even in the parts where we think it is safe, we are probably wrong.

But, Ward? This is still featured with the page you linked:
https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/

Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it.

THAT is what you are decidedly ignoring.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Updated as of today and previously posted.

Dim bulb:

They are two different documents, both featured on the AAP's front page.

Further, yours refers to the 7/10 document "For more information."

It is not superseded, just written by a different group for a different publication.

I posted the same document twice.
At the bottom of each posting

Last Updated 7/14/2020
Source American Academy of Pediatrics (Copyright © 2020)

Yes, Ward. How amazing!

Almost immediately above it, it also says "More information:
Pediatricians, Educators and Superintendents Urge a Safe Return to School This Fall​​" which is the doc I linked (twice) and which HAS NOT BEEN SUPERSEDED.

I imagine that AAP will offer a clarification about what you see as a discrepancy, but which is not. But, again, from the link you posted:

Ideally, local school leaders, public health experts​, educators and parents can work together to decide how and when to reopen schools.  These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words exactly my point and what I referenced

[bambu.]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-live-updates-miami-florida-is-now-worlds-covid19-epicentre-expert-says/live-coverage/bffacd3eae8b9f6a5cb99b6012725ae9

Health authorities have confirmed links between coronavirus cases in Black Lives Matter protests and a cluster of at least 242 cases in Melbourne's public housing towers.

As many as 10,000 people attended the June 6 rally in Melbourne’s CBD, despite warnings from Premier Daniel Andrews and the Department of Health and Human Services urging people to “consider other ways to show support”.

#####

Yes, this is what happens when the streets get taken over by protesters, and cease to be 'owned' by the govt.
...and what happens when weak govt leaders warn and urge instead of ban and enforce.

Now thousands are locked down in 'the projects'...public housing towers....because one, one protester caught it and took it to her retail store workplace, then a colleague took it into the towers...and from there it spread quickly, shared facilities in some parts of some towers.

That's very unfortunately. It's also different from what has been seen hear, suggesting perhaps your protesters were not wearing masks.

Some were wearing masks, not all.
There was some social distancing...not much though.
All it took was one person to get infected, obviously from someone else there.
Many of the people locked down in the towers could be refugees. Some are locals.
The apartments are quite small, judging by media reports, some occupants standing at the small windows between the blinds and the glass...with signs "hungry", "no food", etc.
Yes, 'dopey Dan', the Premier,...instead of organising the army to deliver enough food to the thousands as soon as he announced the hard lockdown, had a few trucks from charities deliver food. "They won't let food from the mosque be delivered"...it was reported one woman said.
Couldn't run a chook raffle.

[bankshot1]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-live-updates-miami-florida-is-now-worlds-covid19-epicentre-expert-says/live-coverage/bffacd3eae8b9f6a5cb99b6012725ae9

Health authorities have confirmed links between coronavirus cases in Black Lives Matter protests and a cluster of at least 242 cases in Melbourne's public housing towers.

As many as 10,000 people attended the June 6 rally in Melbourne’s CBD, despite warnings from Premier Daniel Andrews and the Department of Health and Human Services urging people to “consider other ways to show support”.

#####

Yes, this is what happens when the streets get taken over by protesters, and cease to be 'owned' by the govt.
...and what happens when weak govt leaders warn and urge instead of ban and enforce.

Now thousands are locked down in the public housing towers....because one, one protester caught it and took it to her retail store workplace, then a colleague took it into the towers...and from there it spread quickly, shared facilities in some parts of some towers.

As we all know covid-19 is extremely contagious and precautions should be taken as best as possible or practical,

However in the article you provided is included the following

However, Victoria’s chief health officer Brett Sutton has said the protest hasn’t played a significant role in the state’s surging virus infections.

and if you scroll down you see references to the virus being spread in Australia by pub-goers.

A total of 18 Queenslanders who visited Sydney's Crossroads Hotel have been tested for the coronavirus.

"We understand "A lot of people went there and no doubt there probably are other Queenslanders who visited the pub on those dates and we'd urge them to come forward and get tested immediately." it's a very popular stopping spot off the Hume Highway and that there were roughly 4,000 patrons during that period of time (July 3-10)," he told ABC this morning.



Yet you skipped over those.

And as the headline to your link refers to "Miami Florida is now the epicenter for the virus"

This is what happens when palid sunbathers, in search of the perfect tan, takes over our public beaches!!!



Stay healthy, wear a mask particularly when you're in a pub guzzling Fosters.

Cheers mate!

[Echo4]

Oh, in person schools are optimal. When they are safe. In the US they are not safe now because Trump and his acolytes have refused to do the hard work to make them safe. Unlike, well, every country you cited above. But Trump was so concerned that a bad economy would hurt his election chances he forced reopenings before we were ready and we are now worse than we were when we first started the shut downs.

Keeping schools open are decisions made by states and school districts.
And Science is on the side of having kids in schools

By "science" Red means prayer and best wishes.

No. I mean Science.
So does the AAP.

Just because you capitalize "Science" this time doesn't mean you understand it any better.

I understand it quite well.

You know what they say, the truly stupid never grasp their own limitations and cannot recognize what they do not know. Red proves this time and again. AAP specifically indicated pandemic school reopening should be left to medical experts. But since that does not fit your argument - or.rather, the argument you cut and pasted from the right wing source you read but did not think through - you ignore it.

I didn’t ignore anything.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Interesting edit from the statement four days ago. But from this:

These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words, in most of the country it is not safe to go back to school at this point.

And, from the Israeli data, even in the parts where we think it is safe, we are probably wrong.

But, Ward? This is still featured with the page you linked:
https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/

Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it.

THAT is what you are decidedly ignoring.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/COVID-19/Pages/Return-to-School-During-COVID-19.aspx

Updated as of today and previously posted.

Dim bulb:

They are two different documents, both featured on the AAP's front page.

Further, yours refers to the 7/10 document "For more information."

It is not superseded, just written by a different group for a different publication.

I posted the same document twice.
At the bottom of each posting

Last Updated 7/14/2020
Source American Academy of Pediatrics (Copyright © 2020)

Yes, Ward. How amazing!

Almost immediately above it, it also says "More information:
Pediatricians, Educators and Superintendents Urge a Safe Return to School This Fall​​" which is the doc I linked (twice) and which HAS NOT BEEN SUPERSEDED.

I imagine that AAP will offer a clarification about what you see as a discrepancy, but which is not. But, again, from the link you posted:

Ideally, local school leaders, public health experts​, educators and parents can work together to decide how and when to reopen schools.  These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words exactly my point and what I referenced

"Science is on the side of having kids in schools," you said.

Not exactly your point, no.

Science is on the side of making sure that it is safe for them to go back. So is the AAP, no matter how or how often you distort their message.

[facilitatorn]

Ideally, local school leaders, public health experts​, educators and parents can work together to decide how and when to reopen schools.  These decisions will need to take into account the spread of COVID-19 in the community, as well as whether schools are able to make in-person learning safe.  Schools and families should also prepare to go back to virtual learning if COVID cases increase in the community.

In other words exactly my point and what I referenced

How does that jibe with the trump-DeVos extortion scheme to push schools into opening prematurely and without resources so they can be superspreader hubs in their communities destroying our future?

[facilitatorn]

Under trump federal failures keep on coming in all shapes and sizes,

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/dyzx5a/an-american-warship-has-been-on-fire-for-48-hours



Coward Bone Spurs needs to be put down. His imposter “command” is a deadly mess worsening by the day.