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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

Biden should call on Trump to resign for all the damage he's caused.
Maybe wait until the week before the first debate ...
(though I'd be tempted to call the debates off)

Biden calling for Trump's resignation would be seen as an empty political grandstanding.

But I wonder with Trump's #s plummeting and most Americans having no faith in Trump's ability to govern or lead us in a crisis, IF Mitch Machiavellian would move on Trump, publicly imploring him to resign for the good of the country, and let VP Pence run out the clock and probably get toasted as the R's 2020 pence-hitter versus Biden.

Mitchy's Machiavellian maneuver, knifing Trump (et tu Mitchus?) sort of clears him of Trump taint, might save a R-senate, (and Mitchy's power seat) and resets the Repubs for 2022-24. With Trumps 35-40% approval ratings, barring mircales (plural), 2020 looks like a disaster for the Repubs in November. so what's the down-side a few crazy Trump tweets about Mitch?

just a thought

Mitch could just move to reconsider the vote on impeachment...

That would need the House to reimpeach and IMO we're not going there.

Nope. It could be done strictly in the Senate, no need for Nancy to get involved. Mitt could move to reconsider just on the one count he voted against, for example.

reconsider - Senate rules permit one motion to reconsider any question decided by vote, if offered by a senator who voted on the winning side. Normally a supporter of the outcome immediately moves to reconsider the vote, and the same senator or another immediately moves to table this motion, thus securing the outcome of the vote.

I don't know the rules of the Senate, but it strikes me purely as a layman, that as Trump was found "not guilty" on the impeachment charges brought before the Senate, a motion to reoconsider in this case, might be viewed as double jeopardy. So a new charge would have to be brought against him.

But I leave it to legal experts and those possessing far more expertise than I will ever possess to set the record straight.

Anyone seen kid?

Double jeopardy is a legal term involving criminal cases. Impeachment trials are not criminal and are only "legal" in the sense that they are not illegal. There is no double jeopardy possible.

It's not going to happen, Banks. I know that. But I also know it would fall within the Senate rules to reconsider the not guilty vote and for it to have a different outcome.

Yes double jeopardy is a legal term, and I've no idea if a president could be found "not guilty" in a Senate jury vote and then guilty months later on a re-vote on the same issue. It smells like double-jeopardy.

And I've no idea if its legal to do so, or how it might be viewed by a SC review.


 

[LarryBnDC]

Folks acting like Parscale reassignment is uncommon.  Funny.

I think folks are acting like replacing your campaign manager a little over 100 days from an election is not a sign that the campaign is going well.

And I think folks are right.

Last guy who quit campaign this late in 2016 went to jail.

Parscale still with the campaign in a key role

Remains to be seen how much Kushner is called upon this time out.

HaHa!


https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1263147585625305088?s=21

[LarryBnDC]

Parscale still with the campaign in a key role

Yup, they still need his company to pay out campaign funds to family members without needing to report to the FEC.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-paying-sons-significant-others-180000-a-year-2020-4

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/421284/fertility-rate-jaw-dropping-global-crash-in-children-being-born?fbclid=IwAR0OIq3ad5-R2f2ZLhPEg4baoDXOAgrWhO0QCKZXDAR-RwW8ANYn3FH9gWI

This is serious stuff, for all that some of the doom and gloom is decades away. Some.

Average parental IQ also likely decreasing

Why would that be?

Kid became a parent?

He won’t admit it.

[Hamilton Samuels]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/16/protesters-got-shipment-of-bats-before-brooklyn-bridge-brawl-video/

Hardly helping the cause.

As long as they don't eat them they should be okay.

The intent was never peaceful. That's why it harms.

But you knew that.

[Hamilton Samuels]

https://assets.amuniversal.com/d5b1cee0a1c901380fe1005056a9545d

[NeedsAdjustments]

Oh and kid still waiting for your plans for school re-openings, particularly in the nation's hot spots, (FL, TX, AZ) you seemed to demand from others.



Why would you think I would offer a plan?  Not my area of expertise or knowledge - and unlike others here ...cough...BO....I dont put forth such.

When I see the plan i will comment.  For now I like the administration's PREFERENCE to get kids IN SCHOOL when at all possible.

DEMAND, not preference, backed by threats.

And not "whenever possible," but period.

Says you.

Wrong. About. Everything.

[NeedsAdjustments]

Biden calling for Trump's resignation would be seen as an empty political grandstanding.

It would:
1) get Biden attention and win a news cycle, while putting Trump on the defensive;
2) probably lead to Trump having some deranged reaction;
3) frame the political debate and make it clear that this whole Trump clusterfuck and FUBAR isn't normal and shouldn't be normalized.

Exactly.

There is no clearer indication of how fucked our political process is than the fact that we are even considering this guy for reelection.

[NeedsAdjustments]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/16/protesters-got-shipment-of-bats-before-brooklyn-bridge-brawl-video/

Hardly helping the cause.

As long as they don't eat them they should be okay.

The intent was never peaceful. That's why it harms.

But you knew that.

LOL.

[facilitatorn]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/421284/fertility-rate-jaw-dropping-global-crash-in-children-being-born?fbclid=IwAR0OIq3ad5-R2f2ZLhPEg4baoDXOAgrWhO0QCKZXDAR-RwW8ANYn3FH9gWI

This is serious stuff, for all that some of the doom and gloom is decades away. Some.

Average parental IQ also likely decreasing

Why would that be?

Kid became a parent?

He won’t admit it.

The mother worked as hard as she could to make sure it was the mailman or the plumber, not Kiid.

[Echo4]

Biden should call on Trump to resign for all the damage he's caused.
Maybe wait until the week before the first debate ...
(though I'd be tempted to call the debates off)

Biden calling for Trump's resignation would be seen as an empty political grandstanding.

But I wonder with Trump's #s plummeting and most Americans having no faith in Trump's ability to govern or lead us in a crisis, IF Mitch Machiavellian would move on Trump, publicly imploring him to resign for the good of the country, and let VP Pence run out the clock and probably get toasted as the R's 2020 pence-hitter versus Biden.

Mitchy's Machiavellian maneuver, knifing Trump (et tu Mitchus?) sort of clears him of Trump taint, might save a R-senate, (and Mitchy's power seat) and resets the Repubs for 2022-24. With Trumps 35-40% approval ratings, barring mircales (plural), 2020 looks like a disaster for the Repubs in November. so what's the down-side a few crazy Trump tweets about Mitch?

just a thought

Mitch could just move to reconsider the vote on impeachment...

That would need the House to reimpeach and IMO we're not going there.

Nope. It could be done strictly in the Senate, no need for Nancy to get involved. Mitt could move to reconsider just on the one count he voted against, for example.

reconsider - Senate rules permit one motion to reconsider any question decided by vote, if offered by a senator who voted on the winning side. Normally a supporter of the outcome immediately moves to reconsider the vote, and the same senator or another immediately moves to table this motion, thus securing the outcome of the vote.

I don't know the rules of the Senate, but it strikes me purely as a layman, that as Trump was found "not guilty" on the impeachment charges brought before the Senate, a motion to reoconsider in this case, might be viewed as double jeopardy. So a new charge would have to be brought against him.

But I leave it to legal experts and those possessing far more expertise than I will ever possess to set the record straight.

Anyone seen kid?

Double jeopardy is a legal term involving criminal cases. Impeachment trials are not criminal and are only "legal" in the sense that they are not illegal. There is no double jeopardy possible.

It's not going to happen, Banks. I know that. But I also know it would fall within the Senate rules to reconsider the not guilty vote and for it to have a different outcome.

Yes double jeopardy is a legal term, and I've no idea if a president could be found "not guilty" in a Senate jury vote and then guilty months later on a re-vote on the same issue. It smells like double-jeopardy.

And I've no idea if its legal to do so, or how it might be viewed by a SC review.

I understand that you have no idea. Nor is there any reason for you to have known.

I'm telling you how it works.

Despite the fact that it would be double jeopardy in a criminal court, there is no such concept in a Senate trial (or a civil trial, for that matter).

And SCOTUS repeatedly, despite the efforts of whomever has been out of power, declines to try to change the Senate's rules because the Senate is empowered by the Constitution to set their own.

[Echo4]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/16/protesters-got-shipment-of-bats-before-brooklyn-bridge-brawl-video/

Hardly helping the cause.

As long as they don't eat them they should be okay.

The intent was never peaceful. That's why it harms.

But you knew that.

It was a PUN, uno.

[Echo4]

https://www.comicsands.com/trump-warns-biden-no-ratings-2646403316.html?fbclid=IwAR0v0BW8GhzsXFAJQMeMWaJNe5oeqwY8o_71QjkbvMBfBNZunRu4pgrKOd4

Oh nosssssssssss!

No ratings for the media? Quick, support Trump!

[bodiddley]

Its meanigless grandstanding.
Biden calls for Trump to resign"
News at 11
BFD.

Let Biden attack Trump on his stupid polices, those have legs and will resonate with the electorate.
...
It'll never happen.

Well, Biden wouldn't just toss that out and walk away after one sentence.
You follow that pronouncement up with all the wrongs committed and the horrors inflicted by the Trump Admin.  You make the case against Trump, and make the case that this is beyond acceptable.  Politicizing an epidemic -- masks, lockdowns, state reopenings, school reopenings -- is disgraceful and beyond the pale.  Good government saves lives, bad gov't kills.

And needless to say, you don't even want Trump to resign.  You just want the idea disseminated widely.  You want the entire GOP flushed away with Trump.  Of course this should have happened with W Bush, but the Dems never forced the issue or forcefully made the case.  It's time ...

[bodiddley]

https://www.comicsands.com/trump-warns-biden-no-ratings-2646403316.html?fbclid=IwAR0v0BW8GhzsXFAJQMeMWaJNe5oeqwY8o_71QjkbvMBfBNZunRu4pgrKOd4

Not that it really matters -- especially since formatting is frequently such a disaster here -- but in a link anything after the ? can be cut off.

https://www.comicsands.com/trump-warns-biden-no-ratings-2646403316.html