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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Trump up 3 in Florida

538 composite of polls has Biden up 3.3 in Florida.   Ever occurred to anyone that Rasmussen,  due to its reputation, is a bit more likely to get agreement to participate in a poll from someone Trump leaning?

https://www.270towin.com/2020-polls-biden-trump/florida/

They have Biden up 4.2, though I note that they don't include the Rasmussen bullshit that Kid swallows.

[barton]

Hugely normal life here.

One reason that social scientists find for people accepting totalitarian governments is the ongoing promise of social stability and order.   

Real democracy is messy and easily reverts or falters.   It seems least chaotic in nations that are smaller and more homogeneous, like Denmark.   Makes me wonder if the US will eventually break up into smaller balkanized units,  some democratic,  some more totalitarian, maybe even a theocracy in the Bible Belt.   

[bodiddley]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-xi-jinpings-china-nationalism-takes-a-dark-turn-11603382993
Normal for you, maybe.

The Virus has been eliminated here for months.
In the US you have almost as many cases per day as China had in total.
In viral terms, life has returned to pre-2019 normal.

Every country has problems.
Did you see the number of US opioid deaths the past decade that I posted yesterday?  This goes on in the US while you live comfortably.  So does racist policing in a country which has the largest prison population and high rates of violent crime.  One of the best aspects of China is that crime is low and guns are not available.

Really the big negative issue in China is the horrendous treatment of Muslims in the far west.  I'm not even sure what comes second, as that is so monumentally wrong.  Maybe the increased authoritarianism is 2nd.  And the crackdown on religious groups.

[kiidcarter8]

538 composite of polls has Biden up 3.3 in Florida.   Ever occurred to anyone that Rasmussen,  due to its reputation, is a bit more likely to get agreement to participate in a poll from someone Trump leaning?



recency

[kiidcarter8]

RCP has Biden ahead too

But by 1.5

[kiidcarter8]

Really the big negative issue in China is the horrendous treatment of Muslims in the far west.  I'm not even sure what comes second, as that is so monumentally wrong.  Maybe the increased authoritarianism is 2nd.  And the crackdown on religious groups.


Right

Like I said - for you - and for many - things just fine.

Not unlike US.

[kiidcarter8]

Good FLA commentary here


https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_matthew_isbell/states_of_play_florida

[kiidcarter8]

One reason that social scientists find for people accepting totalitarian governments is the ongoing promise of social stability and order.   


Yes, those not likely to rock the boat - and stable economically - are quite comfortable.

[kiidcarter8]

You've been let out of jail - in case you hadnt noticed - Barton.

I look forward to reading your opinions between now and when the election is decided some time in January.   

[josh]

Drain the swamp!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usps-contract-xpo-logistics-postmaster-general-louis-dejoy

[LarryBnDC]

“I understand peaceful protest but not the rioting and looting! And why do they burn down their own neighborhoods?”

https://www.startribune.com/charges-boogaloo-bois-fired-on-minneapolis-police-precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/


Suckers...

[bambu.]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-xi-jinpings-china-nationalism-takes-a-dark-turn-11603382993
Normal for you, maybe.

The Virus has been eliminated here for months.
In the US you have almost as many cases per day as China had in total.
In viral terms, life has returned to pre-2019 normal.

Every country has problems.
Did you see the number of US opioid deaths the past decade that I posted yesterday?  This goes on in the US while you live comfortably.  So does racist policing in a country which has the largest prison population and high rates of violent crime.  One of the best aspects of China is that crime is low and guns are not available.

Really the big negative issue in China is the horrendous treatment of Muslims in the far west.  I'm not even sure what comes second, as that is so monumentally wrong.  Maybe the increased authoritarianism is 2nd.  And the crackdown on religious groups.

Including  Christians.
China is not compatible with the Christian West...and as such should not be embraced by it.

[barton]

You've been let out of jail - in case you hadnt noticed - Barton.

I look forward to reading your opinions between now and when the election is decided some time in January.   

I guess you really don't grasp why that post would be seen as condescending and negative.  If you support members right to speak freely and disagree with you, then you wouldn't be "ignoring" anyone.  I never was in "jail," except in the bubble of your imagination. 

Now that you've revealed that a bunch of replies I posted to you, which offered some analysis of your comments, were ignored, that only further confirms to me that you like your chickenshit little games and pissing contests.  I really could not care less who you ignore.  If you continue with your Cult of Personality for Trump, and feel uncomfortable whenever I criticize that lousy POS of a president, then just go right ahead and Iggy me again.  Whatever gets your little rocks off.   

[barton]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-xi-jinpings-china-nationalism-takes-a-dark-turn-11603382993
Normal for you, maybe.

The Virus has been eliminated here for months.
In the US you have almost as many cases per day as China had in total.
In viral terms, life has returned to pre-2019 normal.

Every country has problems.
Did you see the number of US opioid deaths the past decade that I posted yesterday?  This goes on in the US while you live comfortably.  So does racist policing in a country which has the largest prison population and high rates of violent crime.  One of the best aspects of China is that crime is low and guns are not available.

Really the big negative issue in China is the horrendous treatment of Muslims in the far west.  I'm not even sure what comes second, as that is so monumentally wrong.  Maybe the increased authoritarianism is 2nd.  And the crackdown on religious groups.

The "social credit" system?  Sounds pretty Orwellian and horrible to me. 

[oilcan]

Krug Man puts it so eloquently:

But you also see a lot of libertarian rhetoric — a lot of talk about “freedom” and “personal responsibility.” Even politicians willing to say that people should cover their faces and avoid indoor gatherings refuse to use their power to impose rules to that effect, insisting that it should be a matter of individual choice.

Which is nonsense.

Many things should be matters of individual choice. The government has no business dictating your cultural tastes, your faith or what you decide to do with other consenting adults.

But refusing to wear a face covering during a pandemic, or insisting on mingling indoors with large groups, isn’t like following the church of your choice. It’s more like dumping raw sewage into a reservoir that supplies other people’s drinking water.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/opinion/coronavirus-masks.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage