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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56010 on: November 05, 2020, 10:02:20 PM »

 :P
You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.

No, Bambi. They are raised by the president not out of conviction, but out of a desire to seed doubt.

There is no substance to these - it is like "have you stopped beating your wife, yet?" There is no integrity to them and the answer was known before the question was asked, except by gullible people like you - people who won't accept the answer, even after it is given.

There is no basis for the doubt, Bambi. And no way to disprove the allegations because there is nothing specific enough to point to to say "See?!"

Should be a simple matter for the Electoral Office bosses to explain simply why the system has not been corrupted.
Explain how the postal votes are marked off the electoral roll.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56011 on: November 05, 2020, 10:03:29 PM »

Some states,  due to slow mail, allow several days for ballots POSTMARKED ELECTION DAY to arrive.   The postmark is evidence they voted on or before election day.   This is pretty simple to figure out.
Nice evasion of the obvious question.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56012 on: November 05, 2020, 10:05:59 PM »

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

And continue to put party over country. Good point, Ward.
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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56013 on: November 05, 2020, 10:14:25 PM »

:P
You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.

No, Bambi. They are raised by the president not out of conviction, but out of a desire to seed doubt.

There is no substance to these - it is like "have you stopped beating your wife, yet?" There is no integrity to them and the answer was known before the question was asked, except by gullible people like you - people who won't accept the answer, even after it is given.

There is no basis for the doubt, Bambi. And no way to disprove the allegations because there is nothing specific enough to point to to say "See?!"

Should be a simple matter for the Electoral Office bosses to explain simply why the system has not been corrupted.
Explain how the postal votes are marked off the electoral roll.

Ignoring the lack of such an office, again.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56014 on: November 05, 2020, 10:14:59 PM »

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

And continue to put party over country. Good point, Ward.
LOL

Nice evasion of the obvious truth.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56015 on: November 05, 2020, 10:15:15 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56016 on: November 05, 2020, 10:18:51 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56017 on: November 05, 2020, 10:31:54 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/getting-insane-republicans-push-back-against-trump-s-false-election-n1246700

Bambi, listen to what members of Trump's party - folks who have not been opposing him this election - have to say. They know the process is working. They know Trump's claims are absurd.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56018 on: November 05, 2020, 10:35:36 PM »

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

Great.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56019 on: November 05, 2020, 10:43:39 PM »

You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.
Fairly simple questions, with yes or no answers.
When mrs bambu was once a scrutineer she caught one person counting the votes "dealing from the bottom of the deck"...counting votes one by one properly, then taking more than one in her hand, only checking the top one, but putting the multiple ones she had in her hand on the one pile without checking them. The pile of her prefered candidate it was suspected.
Trump, elected President by the People in 2016 is alleging doubt.
He and his camp are entitled to answers as to exactly what's happening.

https://twitter.com/jkimballcook/status/1324116653039357953


man if the democrats rigged this election they suck at rigging elections

"we have the power to rig the election!"

"cool, let's make it really close"

"frick yeah!"

"like one electoral vote, close"

"awesome! should we do the senate?"

"nah"
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Re: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas
« Reply #56020 on: November 05, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »

What's taking NEVADA sooooo long?

Nevada had a huge proportion of mail ballots that arrived on election day, and are still  arriving with Nov. 3 postmarks.   Especially Clark County.   With the margin so narrow,  they can't call it when they're uncertain of how many more envelopes there will be to open.

Not asking them to call it.  Asking them to count what they have.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56021 on: November 05, 2020, 10:46:46 PM »

You'd hope dead people and pets haven't "voted".
Are all the ballot papers valid?
Are all the ballot papers posted in legal?   proper ballot papers issued by the govt electoral office?
Is anyone checking?
Checking the ballot papers to the electoral roll, or is anything just being put on the "Biden" pile?

This post is promoting paranoia and doubt.

Good job Josh!

Valid questions though, don't you think.
Fairly simple questions, with yes or no answers.
When mrs bambu was once a scrutineer she caught one person counting the votes "dealing from the bottom of the deck"...counting votes one by one properly, then taking more than one in her hand, only checking the top one, but putting the multiple ones she had in her hand on the one pile without checking them. The pile of her prefered candidate it was suspected.
Trump, elected President by the People in 2016 is alleging doubt.
He and his camp are entitled to answers as to exactly what's happening.

https://twitter.com/jkimballcook/status/1324116653039357953


man if the democrats rigged this election they suck at rigging elections

"we have the power to rig the election!"

"cool, let's make it really close"

"frick yeah!"

"like one electoral vote, close"

"awesome! should we do the senate?"

"nah"

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56022 on: November 05, 2020, 11:10:04 PM »

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/legislative-appointment-electors-extreme-legal-move-unlikely-profile-courage

The Republican-controlled PA legislature has been clear that they have no interest in or intention to appoint pro-Trump electors if Biden wins the state's votes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56023 on: November 05, 2020, 11:46:05 PM »

Election facts.

Democrats targeted ten states and spent $88 million to flip those state legislatures and went 0-10.


Republicans are close to flipping 2 of 2.


Of the 98 partisan state  chambers, Republicans will control at least 59 next year.

More important Republicans will control both legislative chambers in 24 of the 36 states in which legislatures draw district lines for U.S. Congress, the state legislature itself, or both.

And continue to put party over country. Good point, Ward.
LOL

Nice evasion of the obvious truth.
Which is what, junior?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56024 on: November 05, 2020, 11:47:27 PM »

Canceling someone's driver's license over a $50 fine is draconian.
and likely counterproductive -- a hindrance to gainful employment and having an extra $50.

I wouldn't go that far.  Don't need to suck people into the maw of bureaucracy just to get them to vote.  And you should have the right to vote for whoever you want or to vote stupidly or protest vote.

Really I prefer making it as easy and convenient as possible for everyone to vote.
But making it mandatory has some appeal.
The Gov't doesn't require you to do much except pay taxes and follow a million laws.  People should be engaged in choosing their gov't.

I would resist making "should" into "must. "  Agree on making it easy,  but I would prefer that someone who is really uninformed can choose to abstain from voting as guesswork.   Also,  not voting can be a legitimate form of free speech,  even if I may not personally like the "they all suck! " message.   Better to find positive ways to engage young people in the political process and form lifetime habits.
Nowhere in the world is it easier to vote than in the USA.

False.
This election proved that.
No it did not.
Not to mention also this election proved the wisdom of the Electoral College.
False. (for the reasons provided in hundreds of posts here,  going back 20 years

Google "brazil voting system" or similar.
FAIL
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