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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

Noem?   Trump's lap dog?   Allowed Sturgis to go and infect the northern tier of states,  and add to the rise in others?   Tried to stop sovereign Native tribes from protecting their people from covid,  with perfectly sensible checkpoints at Rez borders?   Promotes wild conspiracy theories?   Presided over second highest covid surge in US due to lax policies on spread?   Tried to conceal damning stats from the Argus Leader paper?

Right.

We might want to mark that post as an early indicator of just how bright Noem’s political future really is.

[kidcarter8]

Seems also that this was a Toby Ziegler-type firing

Recall Bartlett refused to accept Ziegler's resignation.

Reports are Esper had one prepared.  But was AXED instead

[facilitatorn]

Please do let me know when the kinder, gentler Majority Leader shows up.

Or have the good graces to acknowledge that you were wrong, should McConnell continue with his reign of stumbling blockage.

The kinder, gentler Majority Leader shows up when the Georgia runoffs are called for Ossoff and Warnock and the Democratic majority in the senate selects who that Majority Leader will be.

Since Warren may get moved into the cabinet, Sherrod Brown and John Tester come to mind.

[kidcarter8]

They lost!

Not by much...and will not be going anywhere.
A week is a long time in politics...let alone 4 years.
Who knows, they might find a candidate worthy of the Office...and if Biden and Co go "crazy left',  anything could happen 2024.

If Biden and Co go "crazy left', they will win 2024 by a landslide, keeping all their current states and adding Texas, Florida, and Ohio to the fold. True progressive policies are massive winners with today’s voters, even more so with the voters of tomorrow.

You are nothing if not an OUTLIER, Fac

[barton]

Noem?   Trump's lap dog?   Allowed Sturgis to go and infect the northern tier of states,  and add to the rise in others?   Tried to stop sovereign Native tribes from protecting their people from covid with perfectly sensible checkpoints at Rez borders?   Promotes wild conspiracy theories?   Presided over second highest covid surge in US due to lax policies on spread?   Tried to conceal damning stats from the Argus Leader paper?

Right.

We might want to mark that post as an early indicator of just how bright Noem’s political future really is.

In what universe is poor crisis management and deceptive practices considered good government? 

[facilitatorn]

Red still supports trump. Poor crisis management and deceptive practices are considered good government in the leper colony of his mind.

They lost!

Not by much

Trump lost the popular vote on 2016 and lost it by a much larger margin in 2020.

There is no universe where Trump supporters outnumber the opposition.

Biden’s popular vote margin is skewed by the California vote.

Biden’s popular vote margin is skewed by a murderous campaign of disinformation, lies, and dirty tricks emanating from trump’s White House and other seats of American fascism. Without these treasonous efforts, the whole country will vote a lot more like California.

This will be evident when Democrats ride an even larger popular vote margin to expand their majorities in the House and Senate in 2022. 

[bodiddley]

Mr. Esper’s downfall had been expected for months, after he took the rare step in June of disagreeing publicly with Mr. Trump and saying that active-duty military troops should not be sent to control the wave of protests in American cities. The president, who had threatened to use the Insurrection Act to do exactly that, was furious, officials said.

There was a moment there where the use of the military in major cities was contemplated and could have occurred.  When Trump marched with his generals and defense secretary past protesters who had just been teargassed for a photo-op at a church he never attends.  Don't forget that Trump kept coddling and buddying up to the military by putting generals in charge in civilian positions and dumping lots of extra billions into the military complex.  Fortunately he never succeeded in buying off their loyalty.

Who knows how such an alternate reality goes, but the protests might have ramped up in reaction to such a blatant un-American approach to policing.  A military crackdown in US cities might have caused even greater division and helped Trump push lawnorder and overshadowed the Virus somewhat.  There almost certainly would have been more violence on both sides.   Hell, even more violence by armed Trump supporters at BLM protests could have sparked Trump to bring in the military.

As it was, Trump used unmarked Homeland security goons in Portland but it never became widespread or accepted.  But if Trump had invoked the Insurrection Act and the military was deployed to keep order/crack heads in US cities, this could have set the stage for Trump not only contesting the election result but claiming victory and having the military back him up.  Just saying this was possible if Trump had successfully put the military into the midst of US cities and the election campaign.
It might sound far-fetched but only because it didn't happen.  Trump never went full fascist or got the military fully on board with his personality cult.  But we also weren't that far from such a scenario being played out or tried.

[barton]

Noem would also carry the baggage of her "Meth: We're on it" blooper ad campaign.  And being one of two states that turned down emergency assistance to renters during covid outbreak. 

She is photogenic.   But so is our cat.   

[bodiddley]

Trump announced the news in a tweet, saying that “effective immediately” Christopher Miller, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, will serve as acting secretary, sidestepping the department’s No.2-ranking official, Deputy Defense Secretary David Norquist.

“Chris will do a GREAT job!” Trump tweeted. “Mark Esper has been terminated. I would like to thank him for his service.”

Chris will do a great job in the next 2 months.
Unless Trump thinks Miller will go for a military takeover that keeps Trump in power ...

[kidcarter8]

Red still supports trump. Poor crisis management and deceptive practices are considered good government in the leper colony of his mind.

They lost!

Not by much

Trump lost the popular vote on 2016 and lost it by a much larger margin in 2020.

There is no universe where Trump supporters outnumber the opposition.

Biden’s popular vote margin is skewed by the California vote.

Biden’s popular vote margin is skewed by a murderous campaign of disinformation, lies, and dirty tricks emanating from trump’s White House and other seats of American fascism. Without these treasonous efforts, the whole country will vote a lot more like California.

This will be evident when Democrats ride an even larger popular vote margin to expand their majorities in the House and Senate in 2022.

Let's go!!!

22 of the 35 Senate seats up in '22 are Republican held, true

Keeping the house could be as tricky amidst the conservative woman rise

[Hairy Lime]

They lost!

Not by much...and will not be going anywhere.

Trump is already getting support to run again.

Some states seem to flicker from blue to red, and red to blue, on the breeze...doesn't take much.
I'd be running Donald Trump Jr as my candidate.
Young, handsome, nice wife and family, smart. Endorsed by daddy,  new and improved policies, that's what I'd do.
Jr's Tweet:
"70 million pissed off republicans and not one city burned to the ground".

Can a convicted felon become president?

[LarryBnDC]

I wish for Dr. Ben Carson a speedy recovery from COVID-19, with no long term effects. I also hope that he has managed to keep his family and friends safe since his infection, likely gained at the Trump election night gathering, whether others already infected were present without masks.

He’s a prostate cancer survivor.

He seems to have lost his mind. Maybe huffed too much anesthesia over the years.

[LarryBnDC]

They lost!

Not by much...and will not be going anywhere.

Trump is already getting support to run again.

I wish him well.

[LarryBnDC]

They lost!

Not by much...and will not be going anywhere.

Trump is already getting support to run again.

But you know, anyone who actually believes that bullshit is member of the cult of personality.

[bankshot1]

Red seems to wish he could forget about California and just ignore about 10% of this year's voters.

Yes Red the vote would be much closer if you could just ignore 14 million voters in the nations most populous state.

That is the wish of those who, like Red, see voter suppression as their best option for an oppressive minority to retain power.

He also seems to forget that the Repubs lost control of the House in '18 and the WH this year.

But he does take solace in the power to gerrymander (redistrict) Repub controlled states going forward.

And that is ultimately the goal of those, who like Red, are afraid of democracy.