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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18870 on: August 19, 2019, 08:55:36 PM »

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WASHINGTON—Planned Parenthood Federation of America said on Monday it would withdraw from the federal Title X family-planning program rather than comply with a new Trump administration rule preventing clinics from referring patients for abortions.
Leaving 40% of.Americans benefiting from Title X funding without access to their preferred provider, and many with no access to any provider at all. Got a replacement plan for them? Or, you know, it's just women who cares?
Hillsdale College is an example of an institution that refuses to adhere to federal mandates and
shuns the money that comes with them.  It makes up the difference by finding other sources of revenue. The new federal regulation bans abortion referrals by those who are federally funded, about $60 million dollars a year to Planned Parenthood.

Notch please. Hillsdale is the darling of right wing academia, or at least it was until it’s President George Roche III resigned in 1999 after his daughter in law committed suicide. Roche divorced his wife of 44 years (who had cancer) and remarried a few months later. That pissed off his daughter in who had been fucking her father-in-law for 19 of the 21 years she’d been married to his son.
The bastion of conservative family values in academia was a fetid pool of incest and hypocrisy.

Hillsdale is still the recipient of mega fucking dollars from the rightwing donor class,they just brag about HC as much these days...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18871 on: August 19, 2019, 08:56:02 PM »

And as I said in the original post, Josh was implying the same thing.

I'm sorry. I did not mean to imply anything. I thought I more directly stated it!

My mistake.  You did!

Doesn't mean my interpretation is right. I know that well.

It remains my interpretation.

And I am equally explicitly not saying that Bo is anti-semitic. (I haven't even claimed his criticism of Israel is baseless or in error.)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18872 on: August 19, 2019, 08:58:21 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18873 on: August 19, 2019, 09:00:47 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18874 on: August 19, 2019, 09:01:16 PM »

Its not my concern you took your interpretation of "unspoken agenda" and assigned anti-Semitism to it. I was just wondering if there was some pre-existing condition which may have formed Bo's thoughts about Israel.

If I thought him anti-Semitic I would have said so. As you should have gathered by now, I'm direct with people, and am not bashful about sharing my thoughts.

I think bankshot1 that you have enough integrity to not directly call someone anti-Semitic or anti-Israel when there is zero evidence of it.  You will, as has been demonstrated, imply it.  Which is fine, thats your right, but it remains a prism from which I will view your posts on the subject.

And yes I think you're a dumb cluessless motherfucker.

And any time you want to apologize to me for your false narrative, please do, or you can go fuck yourself, as I'm generally indifferent to dumb clueless motherfuckers.

Hope we're good.

You seem to have a problem making an argument without resorting to name-calling.  I probably don't need to tell you what that says about the quality of your argument.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18875 on: August 19, 2019, 09:03:28 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18876 on: August 19, 2019, 09:06:08 PM »

Its not my concern you took your interpretation of "unspoken agenda" and assigned anti-Semitism to it. I was just wondering if there was some pre-existing condition which may have formed Bo's thoughts about Israel.

If I thought him anti-Semitic I would have said so. As you should have gathered by now, I'm direct with people, and am not bashful about sharing my thoughts.

I think bankshot1 that you have enough integrity to not directly call someone anti-Semitic or anti-Israel when there is zero evidence of it.  You will, as has been demonstrated, imply it.  Which is fine, thats your right, but it remains a prism from which I will view your posts on the subject.

And yes I think you're a dumb cluessless motherfucker.

And any time you want to apologize to me for your false narrative, please do, or you can go fuck yourself, as I'm generally indifferent to dumb clueless motherfuckers.

Hope we're good.

You seem to have a problem making an argument without resorting to name-calling.  I probably don't need to tell you what that says about the quality of your argument.

NA-I was not  making an argument, I had already shown you to be incorrect.

I was stating a fact, You're a dumb clueless motherfucker, who has a very difficulty time admitting they were wrong.

But anytime you wish to admit you jumped to a false conclusion, and constructed a false narrative, and were wrong, feel free to apologize.

 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18877 on: August 19, 2019, 09:07:09 PM »

ahhh, hell

Sad to add another to 'Ignore'
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18878 on: August 19, 2019, 09:12:15 PM »

NA-I was not  making an argument, I had already shown you to be incorrect.

I was stating a fact, You're a dumb clueless motherfucker, who has a very difficulty time admitting they were wrong.

But anytime you wish to admit you jumped to a false conclusion, and constructed a false narrative, and were wrong, feel free to apologize.

There is a thing politicians say when they say something some people find offensive.  “I’m sorry if you were offended…”  It’s often panned as a non-apology but it strikes me as useful in certain situations.  It denies intention, while acknowledging that a reasonable person could take offense.

bodiddley took offense to what you said.  I read the same thing he did in your post.  I think we are reasonable people.  I think if you were a more reasonable person you might modify the above template to issue a post that fits this situation.  But I won’t hold my breath, as (on this particular subject) you don’t strike me as a reasonable person.

Hope to chat with you about the budget deficit again soon.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18879 on: August 19, 2019, 09:21:43 PM »

Again NA its not my fault you jumped to an incorrect conclusion I was accusing Bo of being anti-Semitic.  I did not. My question as already stated was whether there were other factors, ("unspoken agenda") which may have formed his opinion of the issue, just as I have an agenda which helped form mine.

 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18880 on: August 19, 2019, 09:22:51 PM »

  Facility, meanwhile, is generating a lot of spirochete based invective.  That's fine, so long as you understand that it's the tertiary phase of syphilis where men turn into John C. Calhoun.  Before that, Nietzschean moments of genius may be had.

When was the last time Red had a moment of Nietzchean genius? Cheating on his taxes definitely does not count as an act of genius. Aside from that, there’s not much he's done. The smart money is on tertiary and has been for a while.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18881 on: August 19, 2019, 09:24:10 PM »

Again NA its not my fault you jumped to an incorrect conclusion I was accusing Bo of being anti-Semitic.  I did not. My question as already stated was whether there were other factors, ("unspoken agenda") which may have formed his opinion of the issue, just as I have an agenda which helped form mine.

It seems like Bo is supporting efforts at pluralism and opposing different forms of apartheid.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18882 on: August 19, 2019, 09:26:39 PM »

https://time.com/5655251/us-recession-economists-survey/

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Thirty-four percent of economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics, in a report being released Monday, said they believe a slowing economy will tip into recession in 2021. That’s up from 25% in a survey taken in February. Only 2% of those polled expect a recession to begin this year, while 38% predict that it will occur in 2020.

That would seem to add to 74% who believe that we will have a recession between now and the end of 2021.

And you think it's the left that is pushing the recession news? As pointed out (but ignored by you), Trump was angry with Fox News (whom he referred to as "we") for their suggesting that a recession is coming!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18883 on: August 19, 2019, 09:26:48 PM »

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WASHINGTON—Planned Parenthood Federation of America said on Monday it would withdraw from the federal Title X family-planning program rather than comply with a new Trump administration rule preventing clinics from referring patients for abortions.
Leaving 40% of.Americans benefiting from Title X funding without access to their preferred provider, and many with no access to any provider at all. Got a replacement plan for them? Or, you know, it's just women who cares?
Hillsdale College is an example of an institution that refuses to adhere to federal mandates and
shuns the money that comes with them.  It makes up the difference by finding other sources of revenue. The new federal regulation bans abortion referrals by those who are federally funded, about $60 million dollars a year to Planned Parenthood.
Leaving 40% of Americans benefiting from Title X funding without access to their preferred provider, and many with no access to any provider at all. Got a replacement plan for them? Or, you know, it's just.women, who cares?
The Clinton Foundation might be a source to be tapped.
 Goodness knows it has a lot of funds in need of spending.
Oh, PP will explore all avenues to ensure it fulfills its mission to provide reproductive care to women. While proceeding with the law suit. Meanwhile, some will take note of the idea that what majority power can do to us majority power can do to them. And that if the government can silence one side.of the abortion debate it can silence.the other as well.
Elections have consequences.
But the issue is not abortion which is a SCOTUS interpreted right.
The issue at hand is federal tax support of abortions.

In every poll( in the last three years) a plurality of Americans opposes public funding of abortions. In every poll but one, that plurality is a majority. The questions vary, but the result is the same. Respondents support “banning federal funding for abortion” except in rape cases or to save the woman’s life (Politico/Morning Consult, 2019). They believe that “government health insurance programs for low-income women, like Medicaid,” should not “cover abortion” (PRRI, 2018). They oppose “using tax dollars to pay for a woman’s abortion” (Marist, 2019). They oppose allowing “Medicaid funds to be used to pay for abortions” (Politico/Harvard, 2016). When they’re told that “the Hyde Amendment prohibits federal funds from being used to fund abortions, except in the case of incest, rape or to save the life of the mother,” they endorse the amendment (YouGov, 2016). These polls aren’t close. The average gap between the pro-funding and anti-funding positions is 19 percentage points.


When people are asked about government funding for ANYTHING if they don’t see it directly benefitting THEM then it’s no good.

Publicly funded abortions are perceived to go toward “inner city” welfare queens, and in the same breath those inner city moochers are derided for having children for the sake of benefits.

The side effect is all the programs Planned Parenthood provide toward preventing unplanned pregnancies and for education services and anti STD are also affected by these budget shenanigans.



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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #18884 on: August 19, 2019, 09:29:19 PM »

https://time.com/5655251/us-recession-economists-survey/

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Thirty-four percent of economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics, in a report being released Monday, said they believe a slowing economy will tip into recession in 2021. That’s up from 25% in a survey taken in February. Only 2% of those polled expect a recession to begin this year, while 38% predict that it will occur in 2020.

That would seem to add to 74% who believe that we will have a recession between now and the end of 2021.

And you think it's the left that is pushing the recession news? As pointed out (but ignored by you), Trump was angry with Fox News (whom he referred to as "we") for their suggesting that a recession is coming!

Careful josh.  You are perilously close to making kiidcarter8's ignore list!
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