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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Kid, shortages "in some places" are shortages. 4 of the 8 manufacturing companies around the world were short before President Trump reiterated how everybody should be using this.


You fit in good with the media

Direct quotes only, please.

[kiidcarter8]

In the last week, this once obscure drug has been thrust into the national spotlight with everyone from doctors, to laypeople, to the U.S. president weighing in. The attention has so dramatically driven up demand that pharmacists are reporting depleted stocks of the drug, leaving many of the roughly 1.5 million lupus patients across the country unable to get their prescriptions filled. They now face an uncertain future as the public clings to one of the first signs of hope to appear since the coronavirus began sweeping across the U.S.




Nope

Writer took extreme liberties here

The one example given - the patient WAS able to get the drug.

It's all supposition and getting people scared - and anxiety can be a contributory killer.

[barton]

If people didn't kill and eat animals both people and animals would be safer and better off.  Meat = murder.  I don't really differentiate between the deaths.  The animal holocaust is endless and appalling.

I am certain cows or.pigs, were our positions on the food chain reversed, would keep us in herds and eat us without a second thought. Fuck them.

I remember Oilcanboyd (Dennis) used to post that same sentiment.   I think most vegetarians are more objecting to the factory farming aspect.   I am okay with a hunter-gatherer spearing and then thanking the prey it's going to eat.   That animal had a free life,  natural bonding with its fellows,  then a swift death when it was old and too slow to outrun the ape-things.   The agricultural revolution,  around 9500 BC,  was mostly the end of treating our prey with some respect.

Factory farming animals bad, factory farming vegetables is ok? Consider this:

She thought of the endless waves of pain that for some reason or other she and her husband had to endure; of the invisible giants hurting her boy in some unimaginable fashion; of the incalculable amount of tenderness contained in the world; of the fate of this tenderness, which is either crushed, or wasted, or transformed into madness; of neglected children humming to themselves in unswept corners; of beautiful weeds that cannot hide from the farmer and helplessly have to watch the shadow of his simian stoop leave mangled flowers in its wake, as the monstrous darkness approaches.

- VN

I read your Nabokov quote, weeping while I stuffed myself with jalapeno cornbread from my favorite local deli. 

I missed your NYT rhapsodizing about Hungarian naked men.   

I've heard this Hungarian looked pretty good in a Speedo....

[kiidcarter8]

ZERO in that article on supplies of the drug - about a company donating 1.3 million doses - and just how many COVID patients would there have to be before Lupus patients were affected.permanently. 

Would the price go up?  Bidding wars?  How easy is it to make?  Is there an endless supply of ingredients - just need the manpower?  Class?  Hello? Anyone?  Buehler?

Nah - just a negative blast piece to add to the pile. 

[barton]

Are you suggesting that the promotion of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 has not contributed to its being hoarded by people, causing a shortage of the drug?!


I am suggesting that Barton has zero evidence that sufferers of LUPUS or other diesease have died because their prescription became unavailable.  That would be both sad and improper.

Nowhere did I say anyone had died from this.  Various medical experts mention that shortages are life threatening to lupus patients.   That means that,  in the near future,  deaths could result.  You are a troll and a liar.   I note you didn't  quote my entire post,  as that would make clear your lie.   

Also,  supply chains are global,  so it's likely worthwhile to determine if the millions of small children who get malaria will be at greater risk if all the world's plus-60s are ransacking every pharma market source for an unproven compound.   These are difficult and complex questions, not really ones that are best addressed by trolls out to score points.   

[kiidcarter8]

Didnt this guy die because


a)  the hospital sent him home

and

b)  he was never properly medicated?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/health/young-people-dying-coronavirus-sanjay-gupta/index.html

[kiidcarter8]

You are a troll and a liar.   




Click.

[josh]

In the last week, this once obscure drug has been thrust into the national spotlight with everyone from doctors, to laypeople, to the U.S. president weighing in. The attention has so dramatically driven up demand that pharmacists are reporting depleted stocks of the drug, leaving many of the roughly 1.5 million lupus patients across the country unable to get their prescriptions filled. They now face an uncertain future as the public clings to one of the first signs of hope to appear since the coronavirus began sweeping across the U.S.




Nope

Writer took extreme liberties here

Direct quotes only, please.

[kiidcarter8]

Anyone know why Bernie Sanders was on with Bill Maher this week?

[josh]

Everyone has to have medical help available or the spread will continue.


Have you heard that patients were turned away from testing/treatment because they lacked insurance?

Yes.

Where?

This was the original story I read, though it turns out the kid was insured, but his father was not a native English speaker and the story is therefore more complicated:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/17-year-old-dies-of-coronavirus-was-turned-away-for-lacking-insurance/

But it could have been true.

Pretty much sums up the the total uselessness of Elba as run by you.
Time to move on.

Bye. I hope you are happier in your next stop than you have been here.

[josh]

Anyone know why Bernie Sanders was on with Bill Maher this week?

Yes.

[josh]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/2/1933608/-COVID-19-threatens-to-rip-apart-Southern-states-in-a-way-that-isn-t-happening-anywhere-else?detail=emaildkbow

[LarryBnDC]

In the last week, this once obscure drug has been thrust into the national spotlight with everyone from doctors, to laypeople, to the U.S. president weighing in. The attention has so dramatically driven up demand that pharmacists are reporting depleted stocks of the drug, leaving many of the roughly 1.5 million lupus patients across the country unable to get their prescriptions filled. They now face an uncertain future as the public clings to one of the first signs of hope to appear since the coronavirus began sweeping across the U.S.




Nope

Writer took extreme liberties here

The one example given - the patient WAS able to get the drug.

It's all supposition and getting people scared - and anxiety can be a contributory killer.

What about two months from now?

How many of your kids take Plaquinel?

. Y’all talking about Lupus as if there aren’t folks with shit you’ve never heard.

[LarryBnDC]

Anyone know why Bernie Sanders was on with Bill Maher this week?

Who watches Bill Maher?

[bambu.]

Biden doesn’t have rocks for brains like a certain painted presidential imposter. Reason enough Biden should have everyone’s vote.

bambu-ilk want Trump.

Another equally good reason Biden should have everyone’s vote.

Why do bambu-ilk want Trump?

Because we believe he's our best [and only real] hope.
He's the Commander in Chief of the big guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QUZhK6OAJ8
'Waltzing Matilda' sung in honour of Aus guests at [State dinner] WHouse

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Now there's something you don't see every day at State dinners.   [a shortened version it was.]

"Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG4A0zPjGh8
Trump, Morrison travel together to Ohio
 
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has travelled with American president Donald Trump to Ohio to open a paper and recycling plant owned by an Australian cardboard entrepreneur.