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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[luee]

KTLA 5 News
Removing is not "inclusion" but rather it is "exclusion." The dean of inclusion wants to do some excluding, he wants to exclude John Wayne and he wants to exclude the fans of John Wayne, and he wants to exclude the people in America who had ancestors who were cowboys, and he wants to exclude our history in the Wild West, etc.

John Wayne was not a cowboy. He was a beloved actor whom people have discovered was a bigot.

Removing Wayne's exhibit has nothing to do with excluding the Wild, Wild West or cowboys.

It does have to do with not celebrating the life of an actor who was a white supremacist. They could put up Roy Rogers or Gabby Hayes or some such, if you would like stars of Western-style movies to be celebrated. Clint Eastwood, maybe, or Clayton Moore.

John Wayne was a USC grad. and as an icon brought people to the school. He also was a football star for the Trojans. They did not just pick a bigoted cowboy star out of the air.

[luee]

There should have been a national mandate about wearing masks in public back in February it would have saved many lives. Trump is still in denial. Many more will die until he leaves. The worst possible leader at the worst possible time. Now he wants to put the kiddies at risk. How will that improve anything?

[barton]

About that mail-in election idea.
 

Carol Tims , who lives in Atlanta,
was surprised when she saw a USPS letter in her mail addressed to “ Cody” Tims because Cody was her late pet cat that has been dead for 12 years( but technically still in her home in a cremation can)....

And? What does that have to do with mail in ballots? It is not like the cat will actually register.

If it did, it would vote Democat.

[bodiddley]

My cats have strong libertarian streaks ...

Then again anarchism to them as well.

As long as meals are subsidized and socialized.

[bodiddley]

Whenever China made its decision to lockdown the country (circa Jan 20), within a few days everyone started wearing masks.  The first week masks could be a little hard to come by due to the heavy demand.  I stayed in for 2 days then circa Jan 22 went out and biked around and the 3rd pharmacy I stopped in sold me a cloth mask with 3 replaceable filters.  They also had surgical masks which they were giving out for free to folks in that neighborhood.

The next night I saw Xi JinPing on TV wearing a mask. A day or two later (Jan 24 or 25) some food stores started putting up signs saying Masks were Required for Entrance.  Then I think that weekend it became standard to have your temp checked with a digital thermometer when entering grocery stores and big box stores.

So within a week masks became obligatory.  Everything was closed down from Jan 21 except food / drug / big box stores deemed essential, and public transportation (subway and buses).  I don't think mask wearing was actually mandated by law, but you weren't getting in anywhere without one.  And compliance was extremely high.

I often viewed mask-wearing as a courtesy to others.  A message that I was being careful and they were very unlikely to get it from me.

Anytime in FEB, the US should have started pushing mask use.  And certainly by March 1 when there were a number of outbreaks spread out in the US.  The GOP leaders didn't join the mask consensus until June 30/July 1, a full 1/4 of a year too late.

It's been shocking to watch the bumbling, belated, half-assed US approach to CV-19.  Every step of the way the US has been way slow, way stupid, unprepared, poor in execution, devolving to local levels instead of a unified federal response.  It's really been unbelievable.  And it keeps on happening. 

The Trump-backed reopenings have been disastrous, so he wants to double down by reopening schools.  Lets hope whoever is still alive on election day votes agaisnt this Human Disaster.

[barton]

Haha.  (cats as libertarian socialists)

  Many of the cats we've had like to restrict our breathing (diaphragm sitting), which fits more with a GOP affiliation.  Cops,  coronavirus,  cats.   The three Cs of oxygen deprivation.

I like this group and their home-grown videos of former Trump supporters....

https://youtu.be/vSC1M1vmwJM

[Hamilton Samuels]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

[Hairy Lime]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

Tbat the .mayor and government council were fucking racists and should resign, or be voted out of office.

[Echo4]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

If only you were that naive.

"Not a problem" as ever does not equal "illegal." But you knew that.

Even if you hadn't know that prior to this year, somehow (and I know you did know it), you would have learned it by now, with the Confederate statues coming down from public (and private) land, although they were legal.

As for what the complaint would be, in a lawsuit to try to remove your brand new spulfty Confederate Battle Flag from the road in front of DAR headquarters, in yet another sign of your new found rampant ignorance, the complaint could and would be anything they could think of! I can hear the McColskeys now, about your having reduced their property value, made it less pleasant to look upon the street, increased the chances of an accident in front of their home, or went against community standards and should have your posting street painting powers suspended. People sue over the stupidest things. Sometimes they win anyway, because some judges are dolts, too.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

Tbat the .mayor and government council were fucking racists and should resign, or be voted out of office.

And that would be fine with me. But against Larry's law here.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

If only you were that naive.

"Not a problem" as ever does not equal "illegal." But you knew that.

Even if you hadn't know that prior to this year, somehow (and I know you did know it), you would have learned it by now, with the Confederate statues coming down from public (and private) land, although they were legal.

As for what the complaint would be, in a lawsuit to try to remove your brand new spulfty Confederate Battle Flag from the road in front of DAR headquarters, in yet another sign of your new found rampant ignorance, the complaint could and would be anything they could think of! I can hear the McColskeys now, about your having reduced their property value, made it less pleasant to look upon the street, increased the chances of an accident in front of their home, or went against community standards and should have your posting street painting powers suspended. People sue over the stupidest things. Sometimes they win anyway, because some judges are dolts, too.

Then, when someone sues and wins that BLM is using the public streets to deliver a political message and the judge finds it to be an illegal use of that space, regardless of the mayor's and town council's approval, you'll be okay with it.

Understood.

[Echo4]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

If only you were that naive.

"Not a problem" as ever does not equal "illegal." But you knew that.

Even if you hadn't know that prior to this year, somehow (and I know you did know it), you would have learned it by now, with the Confederate statues coming down from public (and private) land, although they were legal.

As for what the complaint would be, in a lawsuit to try to remove your brand new spulfty Confederate Battle Flag from the road in front of DAR headquarters, in yet another sign of your new found rampant ignorance, the complaint could and would be anything they could think of! I can hear the McColskeys now, about your having reduced their property value, made it less pleasant to look upon the street, increased the chances of an accident in front of their home, or went against community standards and should have your posting street painting powers suspended. People sue over the stupidest things. Sometimes they win anyway, because some judges are dolts, too.

Then, when someone sues and wins that BLM is using the public streets to deliver a political message and the judge finds it to be an illegal use of that space, regardless of the mayor's and town council's approval, you'll be okay with it.

Understood.

Yes, Ward. That's exactly what I said.

Pat, pat.

[LarryBnDC]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

Like I said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/ginni-thomas-black-lives-matter-clifton/2020/07/09/c7b3bb98-c1f5-11ea-9fdd-b7ac6b051dc8_story.html

[LarryBnDC]

Curious what the legality of painting BLM on public streets really is? I know that when they painted that thin blue line on streets inmany towns in NJ it was declared illegal by the feds.

It is a political statement. Should it be painted on a public roadway?  And is legal to do so?

I'm not quibbling about the message. Just curious about whether it's legal to deliver it in this manner.

After all, I am guessing that if I took blue and white paint and wrote Support Israel on the street, their would be a legal consequence.

So what is the legal stature of this political message delivery system? Anyone?

I taught Art courses at a private school in Potomac and a bunch of the boys were targgers who kept getting into rich kid trouble. I told the brats the difference between graffiti art and vandalism was permission.

When the mayors of these towns approve or in the case of DC commission the work I would think legality is not a huge problem.

So...to extend this, if the mayor, town council, etc, approve, it's not a problem?

Wouldn't that apply to all symbols and/or expressions of political pov,, too?

Case by case and you know that.

So, if a town and its mayor and council approved painting the Confederate flag in a crosswalk, that political statement  would be lagal, based on your statements.

Well, yeah... I’m sure someone would kvetch about it, file suit and it would go to court.

But according to you, it's not a problem, since the mayor and government council were involved. So what would be the complaint?

Tbat the .mayor and government council were fucking racists and should resign, or be voted out of office.

And that would be fine with me. But against Larry's law here.

My law?

[Hamilton Samuels]

https://mobile.twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1282104708308635648

Perfect. The Felon Administration. NeoCONS.