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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a22998786/anonymous-trump-white-house-op-ed-new-york-times/?src=socialflowFB

Just Shut Up and Quit

[josh]

https://twitter.com/GLFOP/status/1037146311701790720

"Since 2016, 381 cops have been killed in the line of duty. They believed in something and sacrificed everything as did the families they left behind. All of the men and women in law enforcement believe in something and are prepared to sacrifice everything"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/28/number-officers-killed-2017-hits-nearly-50-year-low/984477001/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nationwide-police-fatal-shootings-2017-20180106-story.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/29/police-killed-2016-average

I think the number is screwy unless the meaning is changed to "from Jan 1, 2016," and even then I am pretty skeptical of that 381.

This is not to say that that the police do not believe in something and, honestly, their sacrifices are far greater than the sum of the lives. I appreciate that there lives are on the line. I wish more of them appreciated that it is not just their lives on the line.

But as a rebuttal to Nike and Kaepernick. it's weak sauce.

I’m waiting here for YankGuy to jump in and yell
 SCOREBOARD!

That's because you fail to understand why he says it.

[barton]

Well yeah.......

from important work, from the lofty perch can spring such mythology.... the stone throwers always having their say

AMERICA.  The Bill of Rights.

heh

?

Simplest way to worship a demagogue is to dismiss any criticism as negativity.   

[facilitatorn]

Pence is using the NYTimes to get polling done on removing trump via the 25th Amendment. He’s hoping the numbers exceed impeachment, which is currently favored by a majority who hold opinions. He’s doing this prior to midterms and lining it up with Woodward’s book to bolster the case. A man who brought a personal AIDS epidemic to Indiana is finally having a similar effect on the republican power structure within the Federal Government.

[barton]

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a22998786/anonymous-trump-white-house-op-ed-new-york-times/?src=socialflowFB

Just Shut Up and Quit

LMAO.   If that's the same Charlie Pierce who used to be on NPR's "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" - a funny guy.   

[barton]

Facility,  the scary thing is we may actually have to depend on these anonymous self-anointing heroes of Democracy to survive the next two years and 138 days.   Pence isn't going to get any real 25th action going.  Everyone's too afraid of shrapnel flying from a constitutional crisis.   

[Hamilton Samuels]

Pence is using the NYTimes to get polling done on removing trump via the 25th Amendment. He’s hoping the numbers exceed impeachment, which is currently favored by a majority who hold opinions. He’s doing this prior to midterms and lining it up with Woodward’s book to bolster the case. A man who brought a personal AIDS epidemic to Indiana is finally having a similar effect on the republican power structure within the Federal Government.

So, Pence is Fletcher Christian?

[kiidcarter8]

Drama

https://twitter.com/MichaelCBender/status/1037484956824612864

Inside the West Wing, aides canceled meetings & huddled behind closed doors to strategize about how to expose the author. Some called reporters to ask who may be behind the op-ed — whether it came from inside the White House or a cabinet-level agency.

[kiidcarter8]

So John Kerry enters the fray....

Nice.

He can see that BOTH sides are weak. 

[josh]

Well yeah.......

from important work, from the lofty perch can spring such mythology.... the stone throwers always having their say

AMERICA.  The Bill of Rights.

heh

If only the folks in office believed in the Bill of Rights beyond as a matter of convenience for them.

And this is beyond stone throwers and your inability to recognize it or your refusal to admit it, whichever, is part of the national problem.

One of the key phrases you skipped in your "defense" of what is going on in that White House is that those things that you think are wonderful got done in spite of Trump, in the anonymous writer's opinion.

And that the author cannot recognize the damage done by the policies being lauded are part of what is likely to remain a tragedy for longer than this administration is in power.

[kiidcarter8]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1037483482098880513

Democrats right now:
Can't stop Kavanaugh
Can't stop Trump from declassifying anything.
Can't stop ANYTHING.

[josh]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1037483482098880513

Democrats right now:
Can't stop Kavanaugh
Can't stop Trump from declassifying anything.
Can't stop ANYTHING.

How do you feel about having an unindicted alleged co-conspirator president under federal investigation, whose staff works to keep from destroying the country and thinks has gone round the bend, naming for life a jurist who will have the power to determine if that president can pardon himself?

I know that it represents far greater peril than any bullshit McConnell was spouting about the SCOTUS seat he blocked Obama from filling.

You? You probably applaud it while pretending this is business as usual.

[kiidcarter8]

I dont think the new court will change much

Even the Roe vs Waders are in error.  I dont see that overturned with Kavanaugh in.

National security interests are more important to me.  The new justice could help out in that area.

[bankshot1]

kid appears to be celebrating a dangerous, inept and crazed child-President and those are the descriptions of his hand-chosen insiders, and a President who is continuing to make decisions that could impact every person on this planet.

He is also a likely felon, compromised Russian puppet and a traitor.

The NYT's op-ed piece seems to verify the Woodward book and that this disaster of a felon President should probably be removed from office.

But the way to do it is by Congressional oversight, not a White House cabal.

Its dangerous and fucked up.

kid is right Dems alone can't stop the decline and fall of America.

Where the fuck are the Congressional Republicans who have sworn to preserve, protect and defend the country and constitution?

I fear they're addicted to Koch and Russian hos.

[kiidcarter8]

Not celebrating anything

Just saying we get our 4 years

Elections have consequences. Dont get mad - get better