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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/08/racism-gun-control-dying-of-whiteness

[Hairy Lime]

It's clear you don't have children.

If you're in a plane that's in trouble, they tell you to affix your mask first...look after yourself first, then you're in a position to help children/others.

From what I've seen of adult children lately, and the way they treat their older/elderly parents, I wouldn't advise putting adult children before yourself.

It's clear you don't have children. Good.

At least my son can't hack me to death in my own home like one unfortunate father had happen to him the other day.

If your genes are out of the pool, the better for humanity.

[Hairy Lime]

"Having kids would be wonderful, honey. But they might hack us to death and steal our money when they are older. We'd best not." I understimated the originality in your thinking, bambu.

I imagine that speech came from his wife, on the second night of their honeymoon. Once was enough, no matter how brief.

[barton]

Dogpile.

Or, dingopile.

Bit of a digress, but I liked Bob Odenkirk's Trumpish fool of a POTUS in "Long Shot." 

[NeedsAdjustments]

Dogpile.

Or, dingopile.

Bit of a digress, but I liked Bob Odenkirk's Trumpish fool of a POTUS in "Long Shot."

I've been noticing distinctly Trumpian depictions of our highest office in our culture lately, but not all of them actually post-Trump.  I was reading Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator with the kids not long ago, and the President in that book is an entitled buffoon of privilege who also doesn't know how little he knows, gets his news from the television, is obsessed with his hotel project, and whose VP is his childhood nanny.   And Dahl wrote it almost 50 years ago.

Main difference I could find is that the book ends with the group ecstatic that they received an invitation to see the President at the White House.  Not currently a can't miss event under Trump. 

And with the hospital he visited in El Paso needing to bring in already discharged patients to find some that actually wanted to meet him.

[NeedsAdjustments]

about those raids...

https://thinkprogress.org/ice-raids-follow-massive-sexual-harassment-settlement-mississippi-plant-koch-foods-d95eb2720f67/

Turns out it wasn't about immigration at all.

If the raids were about illegal immigrants, ICE would be raiding the Trump Org and their properties.

[josh]

"We have this notion that somehow if you're poor you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids -- wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids. No, I really mean it, but think how we think about it," he said. "They can do anything that anybody else can do, given a shot," he added later.

[josh]

about those raids...

https://thinkprogress.org/ice-raids-follow-massive-sexual-harassment-settlement-mississippi-plant-koch-foods-d95eb2720f67/

Turns out it wasn't about immigration at all.

If the raids were about illegal immigrants, ICE would be raiding the Trump Org and their properties.

I've heard that almost half have already been released, but I cannot find where I heard it.
ETA:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/09/749638655/some-300-arrested-in-mississippi-immigration-raids-have-been-released-officials

[oilcan]

[barton]

about those raids...

https://thinkprogress.org/ice-raids-follow-massive-sexual-harassment-settlement-mississippi-plant-koch-foods-d95eb2720f67/

Turns out it wasn't about immigration at all.

If the raids were about illegal immigrants, ICE would be raiding the Trump Org and their properties.

From today's Post:

OSSINING, N.Y. — For nearly two decades, the Trump Organization has relied on a roving crew of Latin American employees to build fountains and waterfalls, sidewalks and rock walls at the company’s winery and its golf courses from New York to Florida.

Other employees at Trump clubs were so impressed by the laborers — who did strenuous work with heavy stone — that they nicknamed them “Los Picapiedras,” Spanish for “the Flintstones.”

For years, their ranks have included workers who entered the United States illegally, according to two former members of the crew. Another employee, still with the company, said that remains true today.

President Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said one worker, Jorge Castro, a 55-year-old immigrant from Ecuador without legal status who left the company in April after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/if-youre-a-good-worker-papers-dont-matter-how-a-trump-construction-crew-has-relied-on-immigrants-without-legal-status/2019/08/09/cf59014a-b3ab-11e9-8e94-71a35969e4d8_story.html

Simplified Translation for 280 character attention spans:  "Trump is a corrupt lying hypocritical gasbag."

[kiidcarter8]

about those raids...

https://thinkprogress.org/ice-raids-follow-massive-sexual-harassment-settlement-mississippi-plant-koch-foods-d95eb2720f67/

Turns out it wasn't about immigration at all.

If the raids were about illegal immigrants, ICE would be raiding the Trump Org and their properties.

I've heard that almost half have already been released, but I cannot find where I heard it.
ETA:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/09/749638655/some-300-arrested-in-mississippi-immigration-raids-have-been-released-officials

Thanks for the link.  I see it was handled quite well.

[barton]

Thanks for the link.  I see it was handled quite well.

So they will be moving on to the winery and golf courses, then?  That is good news!  I so appreciate when the administration enforces the law consistently and fairly. 

As I'm sure you've said many times:  No one is above the law. 

[FlyingVProd]

On the issue of gentrification, and quickly rising rents, the renters can form unions, and they can negotiate with the owners as one unit, instead of trickling out when they can no longer afford to live in their apartments. And the housing authorities can work together with the renters union, to fight for fair rent prices for people, and to help people to be able to stay in their apartments instead of ending up homeless. We have record numbers of homeless people right now. Forming unions and using collective bargaining can help some people to be able to stay in their apartments.

Also, like with a local trailer park, the city council stepped in and did a rent freeze while they negotiated in order to keep the people in their homes.

The best way to stop homelessness is to stop people from being homeless in the first place.

Prevention is what is needed, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Forming renters unions, working together with housing authorities, and working together with the Mayor and the City Council, can help to keep people in their homes, and off of the streets.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bambu.]

"Having kids would be wonderful, honey. But they might hack us to death and steal our money when they are older. We'd best not." I understimated the originality in your thinking, bambu.

We tried.
I wasn't keen...had just left the war of high school, the war of fighting with father with screaming matches in the living room most nights over the Vietnam war draft ["nuke em", "forcing me into the military is Nazi Germany", "all the way with LBJ, baaah"...I said], …..and a few short years later I was then gonna have to fight with toddlers, 9 yr olds, 12 yr olds, then teenagers...my head was hurting from the pain.
But as a dutiful Christian boy ["go forth and procreate" or whatever it is] and dutiful husband I went along with the idea.
Many miscarriages later [women in the family had lots of trouble ] I went off the idea.
I went totally off the idea when a man at work informed me that women die in pregnancy and childbirth.

[josh]

about those raids...

https://thinkprogress.org/ice-raids-follow-massive-sexual-harassment-settlement-mississippi-plant-koch-foods-d95eb2720f67/

Turns out it wasn't about immigration at all.

If the raids were about illegal immigrants, ICE would be raiding the Trump Org and their properties.

I've heard that almost half have already been released, but I cannot find where I heard it.
ETA:
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/09/749638655/some-300-arrested-in-mississippi-immigration-raids-have-been-released-officials

Thanks for the link.  I see it was handled quite well.

'

Because to you merely traumatizing children for 1 night constitutes handling it well. Plus taking some minors.

You remain an insensitive prick who complains about being dehumanizing while complimenting ICE and Trump for their dehumanizing of others.