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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 05, 2020, 09:12:21 PM »
Canceling someone's driver's license over a $50 fine is draconian.
and likely counterproductive -- a hindrance to gainful employment and having an extra $50.

I wouldn't go that far.  Don't need to suck people into the maw of bureaucracy just to get them to vote.  And you should have the right to vote for whoever you want or to vote stupidly or protest vote.

Really I prefer making it as easy and convenient as possible for everyone to vote.
But making it mandatory has some appeal.
The Gov't doesn't require you to do much except pay taxes and follow a million laws.  People should be engaged in choosing their gov't.

I would resist making "should" into "must. "  Agree on making it easy,  but I would prefer that someone who is really uninformed can choose to abstain from voting as guesswork.   Also,  not voting can be a legitimate form of free speech,  even if I may not personally like the "they all suck! " message.   Better to find positive ways to engage young people in the political process and form lifetime habits.
Nowhere in the world is it easier to vote than in the USA.
This election proved that.
Not to mention also this election proved the wisdom of the Electoral College.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 04, 2020, 10:32:30 PM »
Also refreshing to note Californians deep sixed a return to affirmative action.
Despite polls saying the vote ( Issue 16) would be close it got crushed.( oh those polls)

Opponents raised $1.6 million, fueled by smaller donations from a grassroots network that included Chinese immigrants worried that public universities would bypass Asian American applicants with higher scores and grades in favor of lower-scoring African American and Latino students.

Bottom line is the California voters said discrimination should stay illegal.


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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:05:47 PM »
Regarding the polls and the incessant noise here between  Kid and Josh, ad infinitum.

Consider that Susan Collins never once led any RCP poll average, or 538, during her entire campaign for a FIFTH SENATE TERM in Maine.

But Tuesday she breezed to a nine point win.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 03, 2020, 07:26:22 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/03/politics/exit-polls-2020/index.html

Climate Change and ACA numbers are the most interesting to me among those listed so far.
LOL!
Can you even read, junior? 
CNN exit polls show 34 percent of voters named the economy as their top issue.
Racial inequality was a distant second with 21 percent. Coronvirus was third, with 18 percent. “Crime and Safety” and “Health Care Policy” each garnered 11 percent.

The CNN exit poll is consistent with a Gallup poll released last month in which Americans said the economy was the number one issue.

Guess which candidate scores highest on the economy?
You can phone a friend.
Biden.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-10-21/poll-biden-pulls-ahead-of-trump-on-handling-of-economy%3fcontext=amp

No need to call.
Why would I?
A two week old poll that was a statistical tie versus exit polls of actual voters.
MYou can’t be serious.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 03, 2020, 06:53:33 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/03/politics/exit-polls-2020/index.html

Climate Change and ACA numbers are the most interesting to me among those listed so far.
LOL!
Can you even read, junior? 
CNN exit polls show 34 percent of voters named the economy as their top issue.
Racial inequality was a distant second with 21 percent. Coronvirus was third, with 18 percent. “Crime and Safety” and “Health Care Policy” each garnered 11 percent.

The CNN exit poll is consistent with a Gallup poll released last month in which Americans said the economy was the number one issue.

Guess which candidate scores highest on the economy?
You can phone a friend.








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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 02, 2020, 09:11:02 PM »
Re:

Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

Volunteering for the job?
LOL
In a roomful of socialists?
My role is to point out the idiocy of the regulars.
I don’t need to use ad hominems  like you, just highlight the absurdity of their so-called “ facts”.
Your "role" is to provide comic relief.
LOL!
And it is fun.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 02, 2020, 08:54:31 PM »
Quote
...and bending of the truth.

Amusing phrase.

You know journalism has abandoned its professional code when it can't call out a pathological liar.
Obviously a Barton slam at reporters at CNN, NYT, WAPOST, etc.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 02, 2020, 08:52:00 PM »
Re:

Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

Volunteering for the job?
LOL
In a roomful of socialists?
My role is to point out the idiocy of the regulars.
I don’t need to use ad hominems  like you, just highlight the absurdity of their so-called “ facts”.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 02, 2020, 08:40:13 PM »
For the first time in 48 years the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Toledo (Ohio) Blade have endorsed a GOP presidential candidate (Trump).

He’s unpresidential.”

“He’s crude and unkind.”

“He’s just not a good man.”

These things, and much worse, are commonly said of President Donald Trump. His personality totally eclipses his record.

So we, seemingly, have him on the dunk tank, ready for a very cold bath.

Let’s play dump the lout.

But is this really what it’s about?

Isn’t the real question whether he has been taking the country, and the economy of this region, in the right direction these last four years?

Can we separate the man from the record?

We share the embarrassment of millions of Americans who are disturbed by the President’s unpresidential manners and character — his rudeness and put-downs and bragging and bending of the truth.

None of this can be justified. The President’s behavior has often diminished his presidency, and the presidency. Most Americans want a president who makes them proud.

We too prefer the first-class temperament and demeanor of a Winston Churchill, a Dwight Eisenhower, a Franklin Roosevelt, a Ronald Reagan, or a Barack Obama (whom this newspaper enthusiastically supported in 2008 and 2012). None of them are on the ballot this year.

Let’s look at the Trump record:

Under Donald Trump the economy, pre-Covid, boomed, like no time since the 1950s. Look at your 401(k) over the past three years.

Unemployment for black Americans is lower than it has ever been, under any president of either party.

Under Mr. Trump, our trade relationships have vastly improved and our trade deals have been rewritten. Thanks to him, middle America is on the map again, and the Appalachian and hourly worker has some hope.

Has Mr. Trump done enough for these struggling fellow citizens? No. But he recognized them. Maybe he was not articulate, but he recognized their pain.

No one ever asked the American people, or the people in “fly-over,” country if they wanted to send their jobs abroad. Until Mr. Trump. He has moved the debate, in both parties, from free trade, totally unfettered, to managed, or fair, trade. He has put America first, just as he said he would.

He also kept his promise to appoint originalists to the Supreme Court of the United States. His third appointment, Amy Coney Barrett, is the best of all — a jurist whose mind and character and scholarship ARE first-class. We hope she stands against both judicial and executive excess.

Finally, let’s talk about one of the most important concerns in this region — energy. Under Mr. Trump the United States achieved energy independence for the first time in the lifetimes of most of us.

Donald Trump is not Churchill, to be sure, but he gets things done.

He is not a unifier. He often acts like the president of his base, not the whole country. He has done nothing to lessen our divisions and has, in fact, often deepened them. The convictions and intellect of all Americans should be respected by all Americans, especially the President.

Has Mr. Trump handled the pandemic perfectly? No. But no one masters a pandemic. And the President was and is right that we must not cower before the disease, and we have to keep America open and working.

He has not listened well to people who could have helped him. He has not learned government, or shown interest in doing so.

But the Biden-Harris ticket offers us higher taxes and a nanny state that will bow to the bullies and the woke who would tear down history rather than learning from history and building up the country.

It offers an end to fracking and other Cuckoo California dreams that will cost the economy and the people who most need work right now. “Good paying green jobs,” are probably not jobs for Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, or Toledo, or Youngstown.

It offers softness on China, which Mr. Trump understands is our enemy.

Mr. Biden is too old for the job and fragile. There is a very real chance he will not make it through the term. Mr. Trump is also too old but seemingly robust. But in Mike Pence, Mr. Trump has a vice president ready to take over, if need be. He is a safe pair of hands. Kamala Harris gives no evidence of being ready to be president.

We believe Mr. Trump, for all faults, is the better choice this year. We respect and understand those who feel otherwise. We wish that we could be more enthusiastic, and we hope the President can become more dignified and statesmanlike. Each American must make up his or her own mind and do what he or she thinks is best for the community and the republic. Vote your conscience. And, whatever happens, believe in the country.



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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 02, 2020, 11:53:40 AM »
Re:

Weren’t we supposed to watch who we told to fuck off?


Oh how we need a  “ Global Moderator” with some guts.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: November 01, 2020, 11:26:00 PM »
The Atlantic confesses to lying

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 29, 2020, 12:50:23 AM »

Affirmative Action as a policy will be given to a long awaited death penalty now that Barrett is on SCOTUS.
And the biggest beneficiaries will be blacks

Yes.  Eliminating the failed Affirmative Actions will BENEFIT blacks.
Big Time

I referenced a book you ought to read.
I bet you don’t 
And you ought to leave this site.
No one will miss your daily dump of sewage sites.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 28, 2020, 11:45:35 PM »
Bets?

Affirmative Action as a policy will be given to a long awaited death penalty now that Barrett is on SCOTUS.
And the biggest beneficiaries will be blacks.

I won't bet against you on the first part, but evidence from California already suggests you are dead wrong on the second, so I'll put $10 on that.

My proposed standard of measurement
would be percentage of Blacks enrolled in top law schools 4 years after the change, assuming no change to reverse the decision by Congress/Biden before that.
Which proves nothing.
Of course college minority enrollments might tick up, that’s the easy part.

Long since read, along with numerous critiques and endorsements of it, Ward.

But since you don't like my standard, how to you propose to settle such a bet?!
I can accept PayPal.

So, no standard. You just want to declare victory without a basis beyond your own ego?

Yeah, this is what I mean about the lack of rational response on the board.
That was a rational response. With documentation.
Yours was not.
But I applaud your realization you have no reason to lord over this forum.

It was a rational response for looking backward, Ward, for all that there are, as I noted, plenty of critiques of it.

You made a bet about things going forward.

I'm calling you on it.

You tried the same bullshit on what would happen in Seattle with the $15/hour wage - the past proves it cannot work, you insisted. Nobody who understands economics would think it could work.

It worked. (I am sure you still insist that it did not.)

WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT OR THAT YOU ARE WRONG in your prediction, Ward? What would you ACCEPT as proof? How big an improvement or how big a reduction would suffice?!

The burden is on you, because you rejected my proposed standard.

Put up or shut up.
LOL
What Seattle’ s minimum wage “ laws” have to do with Affirmative Action is, well, nothing.
But regarding Seattle, the minimum wage movement has two sides . The pretty side is about the promise it makes to low wage earners—a “living wage.” The ugly side is the way it wants to deliver on this promise -- by disconnecting pay from performance, turning business enterprises into welfare agencies.

As for Affirmative Action it has delivered nothing to blacks.

It was an example of your making a false claim based on evidence from the past that you were sure would apply to the future.

Just like this. I should not have used it, though, because I know you struggle with comparisons.


So, you want to make a bet, but have me just pay you without any evidence that your prediction came true.
You lost, big time.
No surprise you won’t pay up.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 28, 2020, 11:34:03 PM »
Bets?

Affirmative Action as a policy will be given to a long awaited death penalty now that Barrett is on SCOTUS.
And the biggest beneficiaries will be blacks.

I won't bet against you on the first part, but evidence from California already suggests you are dead wrong on the second, so I'll put $10 on that.

My proposed standard of measurement
would be percentage of Blacks enrolled in top law schools 4 years after the change, assuming no change to reverse the decision by Congress/Biden before that.
Which proves nothing.
Of course college minority enrollments might tick up, that’s the easy part.

Long since read, along with numerous critiques and endorsements of it, Ward.

But since you don't like my standard, how to you propose to settle such a bet?!
I can accept PayPal.

So, no standard. You just want to declare victory without a basis beyond your own ego?

Yeah, this is what I mean about the lack of rational response on the board.
That was a rational response. With documentation.
Yours was not.
But I applaud your realization you have no reason to lord over this forum.

It was a rational response for looking backward, Ward, for all that there are, as I noted, plenty of critiques of it.

You made a bet about things going forward.

I'm calling you on it.

You tried the same bullshit on what would happen in Seattle with the $15/hour wage - the past proves it cannot work, you insisted. Nobody who understands economics would think it could work.

It worked. (I am sure you still insist that it did not.)

WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE RIGHT OR THAT YOU ARE WRONG in your prediction, Ward? What would you ACCEPT as proof? How big an improvement or how big a reduction would suffice?!

The burden is on you, because you rejected my proposed standard.

Put up or shut up.
LOL
What Seattle’ s minimum wage “ laws” have to do with Affirmative Action is, well, nothing.
But regarding Seattle, the minimum wage movement has two sides . The pretty side is about the promise it makes to low wage earners—a “living wage.” The ugly side is the way it wants to deliver on this promise -- by disconnecting pay from performance, turning business enterprises into welfare agencies.

As for Affirmative Action it has delivered nothing to blacks.


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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 28, 2020, 10:54:33 PM »
Bets?

Affirmative Action as a policy will be given to a long awaited death penalty now that Barrett is on SCOTUS.
And the biggest beneficiaries will be blacks.

I won't bet against you on the first part, but evidence from California already suggests you are dead wrong on the second, so I'll put $10 on that.

My proposed standard of measurement
would be percentage of Blacks enrolled in top law schools 4 years after the change, assuming no change to reverse the decision by Congress/Biden before that.
Which proves nothing.
Of course college minority enrollments might tick up, that’s the easy part.

Long since read, along with numerous critiques and endorsements of it, Ward.

But since you don't like my standard, how to you propose to settle such a bet?!
I can accept PayPal.

So, no standard. You just want to declare victory without a basis beyond your own ego?

Yeah, this is what I mean about the lack of rational response on the board.
That was a rational response. With documentation.
Yours was not.
But I applaud your realization you have no reason to lord over this forum.

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